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[Music] hey good morning and welcome to the
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hey good morning and welcome to the
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hey good morning and welcome to the growth mindset show my name is Mahesh
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growth mindset show my name is Mahesh
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growth mindset show my name is Mahesh Chan um if you are joining us first time
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Chan um if you are joining us first time
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Chan um if you are joining us first time welcome to the show if you are joining
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welcome to the show if you are joining
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welcome to the show if you are joining us if you are a regular
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us if you are a regular
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us if you are a regular listener welcome back to the show my
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listener welcome back to the show my
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listener welcome back to the show my name is Mahesh Chan and today we are
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name is Mahesh Chan and today we are
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name is Mahesh Chan and today we are going to talk about successful people
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going to talk about successful people
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going to talk about successful people success traits and U if you are in
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success traits and U if you are in
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success traits and U if you are in software
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software
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software development if um you want to get to the
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development if um you want to get to the
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development if um you want to get to the next stage in your professional career
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next stage in your professional career
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next stage in your professional career that's what we are going to talk about
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that's what we are going to talk about
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that's what we are going to talk about we also have a special guest today we
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we also have a special guest today we
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we also have a special guest today we are going to
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are going to
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are going to to listen to the story success story of
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to listen to the story success story of
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to listen to the story success story of one of our own in coming in the
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one of our own in coming in the
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one of our own in coming in the show so if you are joining us first time
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show so if you are joining us first time
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show so if you are joining us first time just let me explain you a little bit
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just let me explain you a little bit
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just let me explain you a little bit what growth mindset is all about growth
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what growth mindset is all about growth
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what growth mindset is all about growth mindset is a is a person who thinks they
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mindset is a is a person who thinks they
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mindset is a is a person who thinks they can do they can achieve anything in
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can do they can achieve anything in
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can do they can achieve anything in their life um and um if you are first
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their life um and um if you are first
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their life um and um if you are first time joining us you probably we want to
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time joining us you probably we want to
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time joining us you probably we want to go back to our first previous shows
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go back to our first previous shows
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go back to our first previous shows where I talk about growth mindset versus
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where I talk about growth mindset versus
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where I talk about growth mindset versus fixed mindset there are two kind you
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fixed mindset there are two kind you
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fixed mindset there are two kind you know two kinds of mindset one is fixed
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know two kinds of mindset one is fixed
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know two kinds of mindset one is fixed mindset growth mindset and fixed mindset
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mindset growth mindset and fixed mindset
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mindset growth mindset and fixed mindset you know a mind thinks like they have
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you know a mind thinks like they have
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you know a mind thinks like they have they have certain abilities and they
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they have certain abilities and they
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they have certain abilities and they cannot do more than that in growth
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cannot do more than that in growth
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cannot do more than that in growth mindset
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mindset
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mindset person um is uh he's thinking about even
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person um is uh he's thinking about even
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person um is uh he's thinking about even though he has certain abilities to do
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though he has certain abilities to do
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though he has certain abilities to do things but they can still achieve more
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things but they can still achieve more
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things but they can still achieve more and if they can learn a lot of things
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and if they can learn a lot of things
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and if they can learn a lot of things and that's what we are all about here on
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and that's what we are all about here on
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and that's what we are all about here on even on c corner is all about learning
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even on c corner is all about learning
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even on c corner is all about learning growing either it's in you know
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growing either it's in you know
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growing either it's in you know programming or your career getting jobs
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programming or your career getting jobs
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programming or your career getting jobs finding a you know new company and so on
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finding a you know new company and so on
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finding a you know new company and so on so forth um this show is all about you
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so forth um this show is all about you
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so forth um this show is all about you this show is about you even though it's
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this show is about you even though it's
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this show is about you even though it's growth mindset you can ask us any
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growth mindset you can ask us any
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growth mindset you can ask us any questions it questions can be about your
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questions it questions can be about your
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questions it questions can be about your job your salary your project Community
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job your salary your project Community
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job your salary your project Community anything you can ask any questions go is
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anything you can ask any questions go is
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anything you can ask any questions go is by the time you are you know done
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by the time you are you know done
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by the time you are you know done watching the show you should learn
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watching the show you should learn
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watching the show you should learn something
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something
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something today so we break down this show into a
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today so we break down this show into a
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today so we break down this show into a couple of Parts first uh today we are
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couple of Parts first uh today we are
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couple of Parts first uh today we are going to talk about top 10 qualities of
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going to talk about top 10 qualities of
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going to talk about top 10 qualities of successful people so if you think you
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successful people so if you think you
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successful people so if you think you are successful or you want to be
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are successful or you want to be
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are successful or you want to be successful or you are you are going to
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successful or you are you are going to
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successful or you are you are going to be successful look out these are the 10
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be successful look out these are the 10
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be successful look out these are the 10 you know common features qualities the
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you know common features qualities the
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you know common features qualities the success most success people have have
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success most success people have have
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success most success people have have and then in the second part of the show
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and then in the second part of the show
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and then in the second part of the show we're going to bring our guest today and
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we're going to bring our guest today and
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we're going to bring our guest today and you can ask any questions again to me to
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you can ask any questions again to me to
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you can ask any questions again to me to guest um this show is every Friday 10:00
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guest um this show is every Friday 10:00
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guest um this show is every Friday 10:00 a.m. so if you think uh your friends
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a.m. so if you think uh your friends
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a.m. so if you think uh your friends your co-workers they can benefit from it
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your co-workers they can benefit from it
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your co-workers they can benefit from it also let them
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also let them
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also let them know we also love you to talk about this
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know we also love you to talk about this
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know we also love you to talk about this show share on your social media let
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people know you're watching it if you
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people know you're watching it if you have you know benefited from the show
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have you know benefited from the show
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have you know benefited from the show you I thought you learned something from
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you I thought you learned something from
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you I thought you learned something from it uh you want to share with us
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it uh you want to share with us
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it uh you want to share with us definitely share with us I see a lot of
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definitely share with us I see a lot of
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definitely share with us I see a lot of people have joined us already I see
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people have joined us already I see
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people have joined us already I see Deepak welcome Deepak and at you guys
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Deepak welcome Deepak and at you guys
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Deepak welcome Deepak and at you guys are regular welcome to the show welcome
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are regular welcome to the show welcome
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are regular welcome to the show welcome back to the
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back to the
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back to the show um yeah so let's start the show
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show um yeah so let's start the show
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show um yeah so let's start the show today let's let me start with uh you
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today let's let me start with uh you
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today let's let me start with uh you know what are those top 10 uh qualities
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know what are those top 10 uh qualities
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know what are those top 10 uh qualities of most successful people right these
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of most successful people right these
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of most successful people right these These are common quality it doesn't mean
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These are common quality it doesn't mean
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These are common quality it doesn't mean that all success people have these but
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that all success people have these but
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that all success people have these but we will start with some of the common
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we will start with some of the common
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we will start with some of the common ones um first is goal oriented so if you
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ones um first is goal oriented so if you
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ones um first is goal oriented so if you look at any successful people successful
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look at any successful people successful
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look at any successful people successful person in life they have their very
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person in life they have their very
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person in life they have their very specific to the goals they have their
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specific to the goals they have their
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specific to the goals they have their goals they have their short-term goals
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goals they have their short-term goals
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goals they have their short-term goals they have their long-term goals they
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they have their long-term goals they
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they have their long-term goals they have their you know they know what they
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have their you know they know what they
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have their you know they know what they want to be in life and you may say oh I
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want to be in life and you may say oh I
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want to be in life and you may say oh I don't know what my goals are that's fine
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don't know what my goals are that's fine
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don't know what my goals are that's fine it may take you time to figure out your
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it may take you time to figure out your
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it may take you time to figure out your goals but you definitely should have
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goals but you definitely should have
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goals but you definitely should have goals you should have goals what you
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goals you should have goals what you
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goals you should have goals what you want to do today you should have goals
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want to do today you should have goals
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want to do today you should have goals what you want to do this week you should
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what you want to do this week you should
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what you want to do this week you should have goal what you want to achieve in
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have goal what you want to achieve in
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have goal what you want to achieve in this month or even this year and goals
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this month or even this year and goals
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this month or even this year and goals can be you know not just for work it can
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can be you know not just for work it can
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can be you know not just for work it can be about your personal goals can be your
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be about your personal goals can be your
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be about your personal goals can be your health goal right you say you know what
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health goal right you say you know what
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health goal right you say you know what I want to run by the end of the month I
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I want to run by the end of the month I
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I want to run by the end of the month I want to run three miles or you say I
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want to run three miles or you say I
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want to run three miles or you say I want to lose weight or gain muscle or
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want to lose weight or gain muscle or
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want to lose weight or gain muscle or you may even say you know I want to
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you may even say you know I want to
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you may even say you know I want to learn some new programming or new skills
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learn some new programming or new skills
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learn some new programming or new skills or C 9 so it can be whatever you have to
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or C 9 so it can be whatever you have to
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or C 9 so it can be whatever you have to have a goal goal can be personal goal
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have a goal goal can be personal goal
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have a goal goal can be personal goal can be learning professionally goal can
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can be learning professionally goal can
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can be learning professionally goal can be even at the job right one goal can be
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be even at the job right one goal can be
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be even at the job right one goal can be that you want to teach somebody
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that you want to teach somebody
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that you want to teach somebody something so um that's important is if
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something so um that's important is if
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something so um that's important is if you look at any success people
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you look at any success people
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you look at any success people successful people they are goal oriented
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successful people they are goal oriented
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successful people they are goal oriented they just don't do things and keep doing
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they just don't do things and keep doing
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they just don't do things and keep doing it without setting up some
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goals welcome um back to the show Sunny
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goals welcome um back to the show Sunny
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goals welcome um back to the show Sunny welcome um to the growth mindset show
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welcome um to the growth mindset show
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welcome um to the growth mindset show um we are here talking about um top
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um we are here talking about um top
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um we are here talking about um top qualities top traits for of successful
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qualities top traits for of successful
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qualities top traits for of successful people today number one is goal oriented
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people today number one is goal oriented
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people today number one is goal oriented they are goal oriented number two
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they are goal oriented number two
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they are goal oriented number two they're highly
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they're highly
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they're highly motivated and also energetic that's
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motivated and also energetic that's
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motivated and also energetic that's important if you look at any successful
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important if you look at any successful
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important if you look at any successful people they don't just sit around relax
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people they don't just sit around relax
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people they don't just sit around relax they are very motivated whatever they do
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they are very motivated whatever they do
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they are very motivated whatever they do okay so you don't have to they don't
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okay so you don't have to they don't
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okay so you don't have to they don't have to push themselves they're already
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have to push themselves they're already
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have to push themselves they're already motivated if you think you're not not
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motivated if you think you're not not
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motivated if you think you're not not motivated either you are doing the wrong
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motivated either you are doing the wrong
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motivated either you are doing the wrong work you're supposed to do or you just
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work you're supposed to do or you just
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work you're supposed to do or you just are not in the right place or right
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are not in the right place or right
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are not in the right place or right company if you are those three things
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company if you are those three things
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company if you are those three things you have the right you know you're doing
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you have the right you know you're doing
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you have the right you know you're doing the right thing you like to do you are
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the right thing you like to do you are
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the right thing you like to do you are passionate about you are in right
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passionate about you are in right
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passionate about you are in right company and you are at the right place
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company and you are at the right place
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company and you are at the right place chances are you will be highly motivated
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chances are you will be highly motivated
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chances are you will be highly motivated you don't have to nobody has to come and
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you don't have to nobody has to come and
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you don't have to nobody has to come and motivate you so think about
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motivate you so think about
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motivate you so think about that um third tradeit Let's uh third
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that um third tradeit Let's uh third
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that um third tradeit Let's uh third tradeit is driven they are very much
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tradeit is driven they are very much
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tradeit is driven they are very much driven so they exactly know their goals
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driven so they exactly know their goals
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driven so they exactly know their goals are right they they say okay my goal in
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are right they they say okay my goal in
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are right they they say okay my goal in my life is say I want to become a you
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my life is say I want to become a you
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my life is say I want to become a you know I want to run my own company or I
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know I want to run my own company or I
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know I want to run my own company or I want to become a you know in next two
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want to become a you know in next two
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want to become a you know in next two years I want to be become a software
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years I want to be become a software
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years I want to be become a software architect they have the goal set and
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architect they have the goal set and
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architect they have the goal set and they are definitely motivated because
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they are definitely motivated because
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they are definitely motivated because that's they want to do that now they are
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that's they want to do that now they are
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that's they want to do that now they are driven so they are highly driven they're
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driven so they are highly driven they're
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driven so they are highly driven they're non-stop even though there are some you
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non-stop even though there are some you
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non-stop even though there are some you know they may face some problems they
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know they may face some problems they
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know they may face some problems they just continue going doing the same thing
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just continue going doing the same thing
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just continue going doing the same thing again and again until they go to the
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again and again until they go to the
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again and again until they go to the place or the the goal they achieve their
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place or the the goal they achieve their
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place or the the goal they achieve their goal number fourth is focused focus is
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goal number fourth is focused focus is
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goal number fourth is focused focus is very important right and uh you know we
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very important right and uh you know we
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very important right and uh you know we all going through this whole pandemic
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all going through this whole pandemic
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all going through this whole pandemic right now especially we are working from
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right now especially we are working from
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right now especially we are working from home we don't you know go to work
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home we don't you know go to work
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home we don't you know go to work anymore uh sometimes at home you are
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anymore uh sometimes at home you are
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anymore uh sometimes at home you are with family kids your dogs pets and so
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with family kids your dogs pets and so
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with family kids your dogs pets and so on so forth they still successful people
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on so forth they still successful people
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on so forth they still successful people are still very focused when they know
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are still very focused when they know
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are still very focused when they know their goal is this even though they do
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their goal is this even though they do
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their goal is this even though they do other things but they still know their
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other things but they still know their
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other things but they still know their goal is and they end up making sure that
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goal is and they end up making sure that
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goal is and they end up making sure that they are not you know distracted from
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they are not you know distracted from
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they are not you know distracted from their goal they're very focused on that
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their goal they're very focused on that
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their goal they're very focused on that um and they don't do million things
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um and they don't do million things
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um and they don't do million things sometimes you know I remember you know I
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sometimes you know I remember you know I
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sometimes you know I remember you know I get sometimes we all get into these
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get sometimes we all get into these
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get sometimes we all get into these multiple things like okay I'll do this
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multiple things like okay I'll do this
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multiple things like okay I'll do this I'll do this I'll do this but still you
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I'll do this I'll do this but still you
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I'll do this I'll do this but still you need to be focused on certain at least
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need to be focused on certain at least
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need to be focused on certain at least certain goals so that's how you will
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certain goals so that's how you will
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certain goals so that's how you will achieve those you know in your
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achieve those you know in your
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achieve those you know in your timeline um fifth one is uh they never
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timeline um fifth one is uh they never
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timeline um fifth one is uh they never give up there'll be chances and you know
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give up there'll be chances and you know
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give up there'll be chances and you know I remember working with a lot of
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I remember working with a lot of
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I remember working with a lot of entrepreneurs I remember working with
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entrepreneurs I remember working with
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entrepreneurs I remember working with lot of senior guys people who are
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lot of senior guys people who are
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lot of senior guys people who are running their own companies they they
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running their own companies they they
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running their own companies they they you know they fail they never give up
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you know they fail they never give up
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you know they fail they never give up they continue doing that whatever their
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they continue doing that whatever their
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they continue doing that whatever their goal and eventually you look at the
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goal and eventually you look at the
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goal and eventually you look at the history I I'll give you an example right
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history I I'll give you an example right
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history I I'll give you an example right uh recently I know in US everybody knows
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uh recently I know in US everybody knows
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uh recently I know in US everybody knows that Joe Biden is going to be the next
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that Joe Biden is going to be the next
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that Joe Biden is going to be the next president of you know United State of
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president of you know United State of
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president of you know United State of America if you look at the history
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America if you look at the history
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America if you look at the history right he if you look at his his his life
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right he if you look at his his his life
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right he if you look at his his his life he first time he ran for the Senate he
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he first time he ran for the Senate he
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he first time he ran for the Senate he was broke he has no money so
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was broke he has no money so
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was broke he has no money so literally they figure it out and they
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literally they figure it out and they
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literally they figure it out and they raise money from the community that's
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raise money from the community that's
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raise money from the community that's how he became Senator before that when
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how he became Senator before that when
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how he became Senator before that when he was born his father has no money they
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he was born his father has no money they
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he was born his father has no money they were living in grandparents and some
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were living in grandparents and some
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were living in grandparents and some other homes then several times he ran
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other homes then several times he ran
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other homes then several times he ran for the president several times in past
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for the president several times in past
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for the president several times in past and he failed and he his his he has also
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and he failed and he his his he has also
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and he failed and he his his he has also tragedies when he was
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tragedies when he was
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tragedies when he was young I think he was around 30 some
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young I think he was around 30 some
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young I think he was around 30 some years old first time he run for Senator
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years old first time he run for Senator
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years old first time he run for Senator his wife and daughter died in car
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his wife and daughter died in car
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his wife and daughter died in car accident and his two sons they had
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accident and his two sons they had
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accident and his two sons they had really bad injuries and I think later in
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really bad injuries and I think later in
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really bad injuries and I think later in his life he he had some brain surgeries
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his life he he had some brain surgeries
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his life he he had some brain surgeries and here we are he's passionate he found
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and here we are he's passionate he found
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and here we are he's passionate he found his he found his drive he found his
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his he found his drive he found his
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his he found his drive he found his purpose and goal in life and here we are
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purpose and goal in life and here we are
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purpose and goal in life and here we are he's he's he's going to be the next
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he's he's he's going to be the next
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he's he's he's going to be the next president he's going to be the oldest
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president he's going to be the oldest
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president he's going to be the oldest president in the history of America so
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president in the history of America so
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president in the history of America so point I'm making is just because certain
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point I'm making is just because certain
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point I'm making is just because certain goals are not achieved in certain time
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goals are not achieved in certain time
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goals are not achieved in certain time it does not mean you give up on those
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it does not mean you give up on those
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it does not mean you give up on those and most of successful people you look
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and most of successful people you look
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and most of successful people you look at history look at you know look at Bill
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at history look at you know look at Bill
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at history look at you know look at Bill Gates look at even Steve Jobs they
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Gates look at even Steve Jobs they
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Gates look at even Steve Jobs they failed several times you know Apple was
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failed several times you know Apple was
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failed several times you know Apple was bankrupt even Tesla was recently
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bankrupt even Tesla was recently
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bankrupt even Tesla was recently bankrupt you know few years back Tesla
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bankrupt you know few years back Tesla
11:33
bankrupt you know few years back Tesla was bankrupt TLA Tesla was almost closed
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was bankrupt TLA Tesla was almost closed
11:36
was bankrupt TLA Tesla was almost closed the doors um then they somehow got you
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the doors um then they somehow got you
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the doors um then they somehow got you know some loan about I think about 30
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know some loan about I think about 30
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know some loan about I think about 30 million loan and they end up becoming it
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million loan and they end up becoming it
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million loan and they end up becoming it today the one of the most valuable
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today the one of the most valuable
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today the one of the most valuable companies and they are you know most
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companies and they are you know most
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companies and they are you know most Innovative as well so they successful
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Innovative as well so they successful
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Innovative as well so they successful people never give
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people never give
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people never give up so with that uh let me bring our
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up so with that uh let me bring our
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up so with that uh let me bring our guest uh Vidya to the show and we'll
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guest uh Vidya to the show and we'll
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guest uh Vidya to the show and we'll talk about five more traits of
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talk about five more traits of
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talk about five more traits of successful people first we're going to
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successful people first we're going to
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successful people first we're going to introduce Vidya to the show and then um
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introduce Vidya to the show and then um
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introduce Vidya to the show and then um after with that we'll take a break and
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after with that we'll take a break and
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after with that we'll take a break and then we'll bring uh Vidya for the full
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then we'll bring uh Vidya for the full
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then we'll bring uh Vidya for the full show and then bring have your questions
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show and then bring have your questions
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show and then bring have your questions ready well
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ready well
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ready well Vidya oh hi there hey Vidya good morning
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Vidya oh hi there hey Vidya good morning
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Vidya oh hi there hey Vidya good morning how are you good morning I'm very well
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how are you good morning I'm very well
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how are you good morning I'm very well how about
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how about
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how about yourself good good I'm here in
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yourself good good I'm here in
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yourself good good I'm here in Philadelphia today is actually very nice
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Philadelphia today is actually very nice
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Philadelphia today is actually very nice day it's going to be
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day it's going to be
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day it's going to be 62° nice and sunny how about yourself
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62° nice and sunny how about yourself
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62° nice and sunny how about yourself yeah I'm in Redmond Washington uh it's
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yeah I'm in Redmond Washington uh it's
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yeah I'm in Redmond Washington uh it's always cloudy here especially in Fall
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always cloudy here especially in Fall
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always cloudy here especially in Fall season and it's not going to be the yeah
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season and it's not going to be the yeah
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season and it's not going to be the yeah it's not that chilly as it's in Philly
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it's not that chilly as it's in Philly
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it's not that chilly as it's in Philly but yes as you can see outside of the
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but yes as you can see outside of the
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but yes as you can see outside of the window it's 7 I see nice nice Sky
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window it's 7 I see nice nice Sky
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window it's 7 I see nice nice Sky outside so how are you uh how are you
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outside so how are you uh how are you
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outside so how are you uh how are you dealing with covid family kids how
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dealing with covid family kids how
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dealing with covid family kids how everybody going through this and
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everybody going through this and
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everybody going through this and handling
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handling
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handling this it's tough I think in this uh
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this it's tough I think in this uh
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this it's tough I think in this uh unprecedented times of covid-19
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unprecedented times of covid-19
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unprecedented times of covid-19 everybody is going through some
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everybody is going through some
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everybody is going through some challenges in their life uh for me my
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challenges in their life uh for me my
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challenges in their life uh for me my daughters are 10 and 15 so they are on
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daughters are 10 and 15 so they are on
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daughters are 10 and 15 so they are on their own school is online using
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their own school is online using
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their own school is online using Microsoft teams everything is online but
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Microsoft teams everything is online but
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Microsoft teams everything is online but yes sometime it's hard on them to figure
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yes sometime it's hard on them to figure
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yes sometime it's hard on them to figure out things uh technology breaks recently
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out things uh technology breaks recently
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out things uh technology breaks recently uh as your active directory
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uh as your active directory
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uh as your active directory broke and then that made to the national
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broke and then that made to the national
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broke and then that made to the national news and then of course everybody was
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news and then of course everybody was
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news and then of course everybody was impacted right so kids have their own
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impacted right so kids have their own
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impacted right so kids have their own challenges and then I am working uh from
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challenges and then I am working uh from
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challenges and then I am working uh from my office room and then sometime kids
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my office room and then sometime kids
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my office room and then sometime kids have their own activities which they are
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have their own activities which they are
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have their own activities which they are doing online so it's it's going
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doing online so it's it's going
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doing online so it's it's going okay all right so with I know you if
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okay all right so with I know you if
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okay all right so with I know you if life give you lemon you make lemonade
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life give you lemon you make lemonade
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life give you lemon you make lemonade right y yep see that's that's that's how
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right y yep see that's that's that's how
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right y yep see that's that's that's how you know success people think you know
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you know success people think you know
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you know success people think you know they take advantage of the situation
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they take advantage of the situation
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they take advantage of the situation right so vid I know you for a long time
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right so vid I know you for a long time
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right so vid I know you for a long time and uh most of people who are watching
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and uh most of people who are watching
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and uh most of people who are watching this show or watching us live they are
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this show or watching us live they are
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this show or watching us live they are they come from a software background
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they come from a software background
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they come from a software background they are programmers lot of them are
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they are programmers lot of them are
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they are programmers lot of them are like Indian background as well some are
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like Indian background as well some are
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like Indian background as well some are joining us from Europe few people from
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joining us from Europe few people from
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joining us from Europe few people from some from us but mostly in software
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some from us but mostly in software
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some from us but mostly in software development um I want to go back and if
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development um I want to go back and if
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development um I want to go back and if you can share your story like how you
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you can share your story like how you
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you can share your story like how you started from your career from your back
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started from your career from your back
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started from your career from your back in India and then and then how where you
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in India and then and then how where you
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in India and then and then how where you are right now and then I know you are
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are right now and then I know you are
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are right now and then I know you are working with Microsoft right now you
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working with Microsoft right now you
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working with Microsoft right now you recently joined Microsoft so
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recently joined Microsoft so
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recently joined Microsoft so congratulations on your new job so if
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congratulations on your new job so if
14:42
congratulations on your new job so if you can run through you know young guys
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you can run through you know young guys
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you can run through you know young guys who are watching the show that you know
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who are watching the show that you know
14:47
who are watching the show that you know how do you start your journey and how
14:50
how do you start your journey and how
14:50
how do you start your journey and how you come to us and you know and how and
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you come to us and you know and how and
14:54
you come to us and you know and how and then I will ask you more questions
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then I will ask you more questions
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then I will ask you more questions during the show from there so let's
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during the show from there so let's
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during the show from there so let's start with that sure sure first of all
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start with that sure sure first of all
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start with that sure sure first of all thank you for punctuating me on the new
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thank you for punctuating me on the new
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thank you for punctuating me on the new job with Microsoft but uh I will I will
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job with Microsoft but uh I will I will
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job with Microsoft but uh I will I will go U I will give you a quick rundown U
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go U I will give you a quick rundown U
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go U I will give you a quick rundown U for the benefit of uh our listeners uh
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for the benefit of uh our listeners uh
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for the benefit of uh our listeners uh first thing I want to tell is that
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first thing I want to tell is that
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first thing I want to tell is that whoever is graduating in the recent time
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whoever is graduating in the recent time
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whoever is graduating in the recent time uh since uh this computer Revolution
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uh since uh this computer Revolution
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uh since uh this computer Revolution took over in India uh when I started
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took over in India uh when I started
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took over in India uh when I started there were no uh computer science was
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there were no uh computer science was
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there were no uh computer science was not a
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not a
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not a thing so I started back in
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thing so I started back in
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thing so I started back in 1995 um I was doing my graduation in
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1995 um I was doing my graduation in
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1995 um I was doing my graduation in those days companies like apptech niit
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those days companies like apptech niit
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those days companies like apptech niit all these companies were coming they
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all these companies were coming they
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all these companies were coming they were computer institutions they were the
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were computer institutions they were the
15:42
were computer institutions they were the first one to launch computer training in
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first one to launch computer training in
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first one to launch computer training in India and then I I also just dived into
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India and then I I also just dived into
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India and then I I also just dived into that I I was interested in that so I
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that I I was interested in that so I
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that I I was interested in that so I started a learning computer with one
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started a learning computer with one
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started a learning computer with one computer center and then I started
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computer center and then I started
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computer center and then I started slowly teaching ing there as well and
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slowly teaching ing there as well and
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slowly teaching ing there as well and then I I did certification in Oracle
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then I I did certification in Oracle
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then I I did certification in Oracle from IIT and I think that pretty much
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from IIT and I think that pretty much
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from IIT and I think that pretty much resonates with what you were talking
16:08
resonates with what you were talking
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resonates with what you were talking earlier about the growth mindset uh what
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earlier about the growth mindset uh what
16:11
earlier about the growth mindset uh what I I think I was good at or maybe
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I I think I was good at or maybe
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I I think I was good at or maybe fortunate enough or I had that thinking
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fortunate enough or I had that thinking
16:17
fortunate enough or I had that thinking that I always knew what is next I want
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that I always knew what is next I want
16:20
that I always knew what is next I want to do so at very early stage I
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to do so at very early stage I
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to do so at very early stage I recognized that okay what are the new
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recognized that okay what are the new
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recognized that okay what are the new technologies coming uh so in those days
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technologies coming uh so in those days
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technologies coming uh so in those days uh back in 199 8 1999 time frame uh
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uh back in 199 8 1999 time frame uh
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uh back in 199 8 1999 time frame uh there was no net it was still in
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there was no net it was still in
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there was no net it was still in Inception phase it got launched in early
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Inception phase it got launched in early
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Inception phase it got launched in early 2000 and that's where I joined with net
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2000 and that's where I joined with net
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2000 and that's where I joined with net bet stream uh but then I did Oracle
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bet stream uh but then I did Oracle
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bet stream uh but then I did Oracle certification from IIT uh then I did
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certification from IIT uh then I did
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certification from IIT uh then I did some jobs here and there uh in Metro
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some jobs here and there uh in Metro
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some jobs here and there uh in Metro cities then I got an opportunity to go
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cities then I got an opportunity to go
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cities then I got an opportunity to go to Indonesia there I was leading the
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to Indonesia there I was leading the
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to Indonesia there I was leading the entire net uh platform for a company and
16:57
entire net uh platform for a company and
16:57
entire net uh platform for a company and then some education involved in that
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then some education involved in that
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then some education involved in that and then I came back to India I joined a
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and then I came back to India I joined a
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and then I came back to India I joined a company in Bangalore then I moved to
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company in Bangalore then I moved to
17:05
company in Bangalore then I moved to Mumbai but I continued at that time I
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Mumbai but I continued at that time I
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Mumbai but I continued at that time I continued working uh with the technology
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continued working uh with the technology
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continued working uh with the technology as it grew so net was the one and I was
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as it grew so net was the one and I was
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as it grew so net was the one and I was always uh fascinated by Microsoft so I
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always uh fascinated by Microsoft so I
17:18
always uh fascinated by Microsoft so I picked net and Microsoft as my uh base
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picked net and Microsoft as my uh base
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picked net and Microsoft as my uh base technology which I really wanted to
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technology which I really wanted to
17:24
technology which I really wanted to invest into and build my career upon uh
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invest into and build my career upon uh
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invest into and build my career upon uh so I worked in my microsoft.net for for
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so I worked in my microsoft.net for for
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so I worked in my microsoft.net for for quite some time uh but here is a a Twist
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quite some time uh but here is a a Twist
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quite some time uh but here is a a Twist after that um in then I worked in Mumbai
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after that um in then I worked in Mumbai
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after that um in then I worked in Mumbai I worked in Us in Microsoft uh for four
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I worked in Us in Microsoft uh for four
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I worked in Us in Microsoft uh for four and a half years then again I chose to
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and a half years then again I chose to
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and a half years then again I chose to go back uh to India Mumbai and then
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go back uh to India Mumbai and then
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go back uh to India Mumbai and then again I came back in
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again I came back in
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again I came back in 2014 and in
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2014 and in
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2014 and in 2017 I I was offered a position as a
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2017 I I was offered a position as a
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2017 I I was offered a position as a principal architect uh in T-Mobile uh
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principal architect uh in T-Mobile uh
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principal architect uh in T-Mobile uh T-mobile is one of the largest Telecom
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T-mobile is one of the largest Telecom
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T-mobile is one of the largest Telecom organization in United States of America
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organization in United States of America
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organization in United States of America and that company uh projects themselves
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and that company uh projects themselves
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and that company uh projects themselves as a software company which is a very
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as a software company which is a very
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as a software company which is a very good thing um and I will tell you why I
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good thing um and I will tell you why I
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good thing um and I will tell you why I said that uh but many of you will be
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said that uh but many of you will be
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said that uh but many of you will be surprised to hear T-Mobile does not use
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surprised to hear T-Mobile does not use
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surprised to hear T-Mobile does not use Net Technology they are not using
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Net Technology they are not using
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Net Technology they are not using Microsoft at all but when I joined them
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Microsoft at all but when I joined them
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Microsoft at all but when I joined them my entire experience was in Microsoft
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my entire experience was in Microsoft
18:25
my entire experience was in Microsoft Technology now many of you might be
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Technology now many of you might be
18:28
Technology now many of you might be surprised that why would a person take
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surprised that why would a person take
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surprised that why would a person take such role and at a senior level position
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such role and at a senior level position
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such role and at a senior level position which is principal architect in a
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which is principal architect in a
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which is principal architect in a company which is well established and
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company which is well established and
18:37
company which is well established and why did they even hire that person who
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why did they even hire that person who
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why did they even hire that person who has no background in the technology they
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has no background in the technology they
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has no background in the technology they were using right so there is a catch so
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were using right so there is a catch so
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were using right so there is a catch so like what you were saying earlier uh
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like what you were saying earlier uh
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like what you were saying earlier uh growth mindset is also coming out of
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growth mindset is also coming out of
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growth mindset is also coming out of your comfort zone so when I started
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your comfort zone so when I started
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your comfort zone so when I started interviewing um and I want to give a few
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interviewing um and I want to give a few
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interviewing um and I want to give a few tips as well uh that always you need to
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tips as well uh that always you need to
18:58
tips as well uh that always you need to know where you are going and what is the
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know where you are going and what is the
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know where you are going and what is the job description and then what that
19:02
job description and then what that
19:02
job description and then what that company is asking for so I knew that in
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company is asking for so I knew that in
19:05
company is asking for so I knew that in their job description there was no aure
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their job description there was no aure
19:07
their job description there was no aure it was all AWS there was no C or net it
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it was all AWS there was no C or net it
19:11
it was all AWS there was no C or net it was uh Java spring boot which is a
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was uh Java spring boot which is a
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was uh Java spring boot which is a microservices framework it was
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microservices framework it was
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microservices framework it was completely angular there was no MVC
19:19
completely angular there was no MVC
19:19
completely angular there was no MVC however MVC is a pattern but it was not
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however MVC is a pattern but it was not
19:21
however MVC is a pattern but it was not a net core MVC or net asp.net
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a net core MVC or net asp.net
19:24
a net core MVC or net asp.net MVC uh of course HTML was there
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MVC uh of course HTML was there
19:27
MVC uh of course HTML was there typoscript was there uh but we were
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typoscript was there uh but we were
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typoscript was there uh but we were using things like Docker there was no
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using things like Docker there was no
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using things like Docker there was no aor devop or if you guys know Visual
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aor devop or if you guys know Visual
19:34
aor devop or if you guys know Visual Studio online was the first name than
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Studio online was the first name than
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Studio online was the first name than Visual Studio team services and now we
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Visual Studio team services and now we
19:38
Visual Studio team services and now we call it as your devops there was no such
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call it as your devops there was no such
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call it as your devops there was no such thing it was Jenkins now if I map to all
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thing it was Jenkins now if I map to all
19:43
thing it was Jenkins now if I map to all these things what I have always been
19:45
these things what I have always been
19:45
these things what I have always been focused on that do not just go with the
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focused on that do not just go with the
19:48
focused on that do not just go with the technology Dev Ops will continue to
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technology Dev Ops will continue to
19:51
technology Dev Ops will continue to remain Dev Ops cicd pipeline will
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remain Dev Ops cicd pipeline will
19:54
remain Dev Ops cicd pipeline will continue to do the exact same thing what
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continue to do the exact same thing what
19:56
continue to do the exact same thing what they are supposed to do however your
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they are supposed to do however your
19:59
they are supposed to do however your technology of choice may change right so
20:02
technology of choice may change right so
20:02
technology of choice may change right so you can use Arm templates you can use
20:05
you can use Arm templates you can use
20:05
you can use Arm templates you can use terraform you can use something else to
20:08
terraform you can use something else to
20:08
terraform you can use something else to automate your infrastructure or or
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automate your infrastructure or or
20:11
automate your infrastructure or or anything for that matter but Concepts
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anything for that matter but Concepts
20:13
anything for that matter but Concepts will stay the same so I always
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will stay the same so I always
20:15
will stay the same so I always strengthen on my Concepts and how do we
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strengthen on my Concepts and how do we
20:18
strengthen on my Concepts and how do we implement it so when I landed in
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implement it so when I landed in
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implement it so when I landed in T-Mobile in my last round of interview
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T-Mobile in my last round of interview
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T-Mobile in my last round of interview one of my leader asked one of my
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one of my leader asked one of my
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one of my leader asked one of my interviewer who was a tech leader there
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interviewer who was a tech leader there
20:27
interviewer who was a tech leader there asked me that oh your background is
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asked me that oh your background is
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asked me that oh your background is completely in net but I hope you know we
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completely in net but I hope you know we
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completely in net but I hope you know we are a non-microsoft company I said yes
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are a non-microsoft company I said yes
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are a non-microsoft company I said yes this is fine because there is no
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this is fine because there is no
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this is fine because there is no difference between Java and
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difference between Java and
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difference between Java and c and not only I said that when I got an
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c and not only I said that when I got an
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c and not only I said that when I got an offer I got selected I was grateful for
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offer I got selected I was grateful for
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offer I got selected I was grateful for that opportunity I thank God for that
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that opportunity I thank God for that
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that opportunity I thank God for that and then when I joined believe it or not
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and then when I joined believe it or not
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and then when I joined believe it or not within first month I was able to start
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within first month I was able to start
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within first month I was able to start doing code review find the gaps find the
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doing code review find the gaps find the
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doing code review find the gaps find the anti patterns suggest some strategies
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anti patterns suggest some strategies
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anti patterns suggest some strategies become an active code reviewer with our
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become an active code reviewer with our
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become an active code reviewer with our developers started working with them uh
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developers started working with them uh
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developers started working with them uh if there were any areas of improvement
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if there were any areas of improvement
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if there were any areas of improvement started suggesting those means that did
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started suggesting those means that did
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started suggesting those means that did not stop me that Java is the technology
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not stop me that Java is the technology
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not stop me that Java is the technology I installed intellig web storm got the
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I installed intellig web storm got the
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I installed intellig web storm got the repos from bid bucket all that stuff I
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repos from bid bucket all that stuff I
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repos from bid bucket all that stuff I did and recently after working with
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did and recently after working with
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did and recently after working with T-Mobile for quite some time I learned a
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T-Mobile for quite some time I learned a
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T-Mobile for quite some time I learned a lot uh recently um on September 21st I
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lot uh recently um on September 21st I
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lot uh recently um on September 21st I joined Microsoft as your team uh as a
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joined Microsoft as your team uh as a
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joined Microsoft as your team uh as a principal soft engineering manager where
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principal soft engineering manager where
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principal soft engineering manager where I run um a platform architecture team uh
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I run um a platform architecture team uh
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I run um a platform architecture team uh for our platform uh which we offer to as
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for our platform uh which we offer to as
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for our platform uh which we offer to as your customers it's called Services Hub
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your customers it's called Services Hub
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your customers it's called Services Hub uh and that's where I am now I will take
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uh and that's where I am now I will take
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uh and that's where I am now I will take a pause now so that's great no that's
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a pause now so that's great no that's
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a pause now so that's great no that's that's great so we we have we I think
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that's great so we we have we I think
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that's great so we we have we I think learned a lot of things from this uh
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learned a lot of things from this uh
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learned a lot of things from this uh talk and you definitely mentioned that
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talk and you definitely mentioned that
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talk and you definitely mentioned that the growth mindset is all about the mind
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the growth mindset is all about the mind
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the growth mindset is all about the mind that's willing to learn new things okay
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that's willing to learn new things okay
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that's willing to learn new things okay I I still talk to people I talk to my
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I I still talk to people I talk to my
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I I still talk to people I talk to my teams I work in different teams and I
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teams I work in different teams and I
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teams I work in different teams and I say uh did you do that like oh I don't
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say uh did you do that like oh I don't
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say uh did you do that like oh I don't know that like that's that's fixed
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know that like that's that's fixed
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know that like that's that's fixed mindset always assumed that uh I cannot
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mindset always assumed that uh I cannot
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mindset always assumed that uh I cannot learn that I because I don't know that
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learn that I because I don't know that
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learn that I because I don't know that because I never nobody told me that so
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because I never nobody told me that so
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because I never nobody told me that so if you are thinking that way that means
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if you are thinking that way that means
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if you are thinking that way that means you fixed mindset and you want to become
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you fixed mindset and you want to become
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you fixed mindset and you want to become a growth mindset you need to change your
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a growth mindset you need to change your
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a growth mindset you need to change your habits and it's not it's not impossible
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habits and it's not it's not impossible
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habits and it's not it's not impossible to change that um welcome welcome to the
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to change that um welcome welcome to the
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to change that um welcome welcome to the show again guys I see some new people
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show again guys I see some new people
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show again guys I see some new people join our regulars Nancy raakesh Mega
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join our regulars Nancy raakesh Mega
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join our regulars Nancy raakesh Mega chaman welcome to the show uh I know you
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chaman welcome to the show uh I know you
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chaman welcome to the show uh I know you guys join us every week so good to see
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guys join us every week so good to see
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guys join us every week so good to see you back again uh today we are talking
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you back again uh today we are talking
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you back again uh today we are talking to Vidya R agal here Vidya is a is a
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to Vidya R agal here Vidya is a is a
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to Vidya R agal here Vidya is a is a senior architect manager um sorry I
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senior architect manager um sorry I
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senior architect manager um sorry I messed up your role they're at Microsoft
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messed up your role they're at Microsoft
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messed up your role they're at Microsoft engineering manager at Microsoft Vidya
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engineering manager at Microsoft Vidya
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engineering manager at Microsoft Vidya is also a several times Microsoft MVP
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is also a several times Microsoft MVP
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is also a several times Microsoft MVP probably 15 by now how many times MVP uh
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probably 15 by now how many times MVP uh
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probably 15 by now how many times MVP uh seven times mahes seven times Microsoft
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seven times mahes seven times Microsoft
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seven times mahes seven times Microsoft MVP and uh I believe you have also
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MVP and uh I believe you have also
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MVP and uh I believe you have also written several programming books mostly
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written several programming books mostly
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written several programming books mostly onnet and then you are also a frequent
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onnet and then you are also a frequent
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onnet and then you are also a frequent speaker at conferences events and you
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speaker at conferences events and you
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speaker at conferences events and you give back to a community a lot so I want
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give back to a community a lot so I want
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give back to a community a lot so I want to go back to a little bit more uh talk
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to go back to a little bit more uh talk
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to go back to a little bit more uh talk about some things you have you know I
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about some things you have you know I
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about some things you have you know I know you for several years now I know
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know you for several years now I know
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know you for several years now I know you speak at the conf conferences I know
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you speak at the conf conferences I know
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you speak at the conf conferences I know you have written programming books so
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you have written programming books so
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you have written programming books so let's start with that how did you get
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let's start with that how did you get
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let's start with that how did you get how did you get into writing books and
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how did you get into writing books and
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how did you get into writing books and um how how the process
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um how how the process
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um how how the process work okay so uh just to clarify my role
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work okay so uh just to clarify my role
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work okay so uh just to clarify my role is a principal software engineering
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is a principal software engineering
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is a principal software engineering manager I know it's pretty long but
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manager I know it's pretty long but
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manager I know it's pretty long but that's my official title with Microsoft
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that's my official title with Microsoft
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that's my official title with Microsoft as your team is um uh so a few things I
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as your team is um uh so a few things I
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as your team is um uh so a few things I don't know I mean I I would say say
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don't know I mean I I would say say
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don't know I mean I I would say say don't write books because somebody has
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don't write books because somebody has
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don't write books because somebody has written it or you think there's a lot of
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written it or you think there's a lot of
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written it or you think there's a lot of money that's the first thing you need to
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money that's the first thing you need to
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money that's the first thing you need to find your motive first okay uh my my
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find your motive first okay uh my my
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find your motive first okay uh my my situation was always different and I I'm
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situation was always different and I I'm
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situation was always different and I I'm sure many of you have it um so it was
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sure many of you have it um so it was
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sure many of you have it um so it was like a natural instinct in me that
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like a natural instinct in me that
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like a natural instinct in me that always I knew that I want to write book
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always I knew that I want to write book
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always I knew that I want to write book always I have one old notebook where I
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always I have one old notebook where I
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always I have one old notebook where I have written some goals that what I want
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have written some goals that what I want
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have written some goals that what I want to do and uh
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to do and uh
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to do and uh I I'm very grateful that many things
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I I'm very grateful that many things
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I I'm very grateful that many things which I thought and I continue work
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which I thought and I continue work
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which I thought and I continue work towards it and I was able to achieve
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towards it and I was able to achieve
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towards it and I was able to achieve those so and it's very easy you can I
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those so and it's very easy you can I
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those so and it's very easy you can I mean recently uh I declined to do a
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mean recently uh I declined to do a
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mean recently uh I declined to do a technical review of a book uh uh
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technical review of a book uh uh
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technical review of a book uh uh actually two books I declined technical
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actually two books I declined technical
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actually two books I declined technical review for two books one was with packet
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review for two books one was with packet
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review for two books one was with packet Pub one was with aess um for for some
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Pub one was with aess um for for some
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Pub one was with aess um for for some different reasons U so if you want to
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different reasons U so if you want to
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different reasons U so if you want to write a book first of all
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write a book first of all
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write a book first of all uh writing is not something that you can
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uh writing is not something that you can
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uh writing is not something that you can always copy paste because if you're
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always copy paste because if you're
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always copy paste because if you're writing for a big Publishing House like
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writing for a big Publishing House like
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writing for a big Publishing House like uh mahes did when before I started
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uh mahes did when before I started
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uh mahes did when before I started writing I was reading mahesh's book on
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writing I was reading mahesh's book on
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writing I was reading mahesh's book on vb.net you can see those books sitting
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vb.net you can see those books sitting
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vb.net you can see those books sitting behind his racks and at that even I
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behind his racks and at that even I
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behind his racks and at that even I didn't know Mahesh personally to be
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didn't know Mahesh personally to be
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didn't know Mahesh personally to be honest uh I I got to know Mahesh in 2013
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honest uh I I got to know Mahesh in 2013
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honest uh I I got to know Mahesh in 2013 that's where first time we met then he
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that's where first time we met then he
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that's where first time we met then he invited me to his cop Corner conference
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invited me to his cop Corner conference
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invited me to his cop Corner conference that's where I spoke in NOA and since
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that's where I spoke in NOA and since
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that's where I spoke in NOA and since then we are friends I live in Seattle I
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then we are friends I live in Seattle I
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then we are friends I live in Seattle I met mahes in Philly as well where he
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met mahes in Philly as well where he
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met mahes in Philly as well where he lives so so you learned first of all
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lives so so you learned first of all
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lives so so you learned first of all from some people who has done it they
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from some people who has done it they
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from some people who has done it they they sort of become your inspiration
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they sort of become your inspiration
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they sort of become your inspiration right so I knew that okay Mahesh is an
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right so I knew that okay Mahesh is an
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right so I knew that okay Mahesh is an indan guy he has proved himself I
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indan guy he has proved himself I
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indan guy he has proved himself I started reading his book but even before
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started reading his book but even before
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started reading his book but even before that I was always interested in reading
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that I was always interested in reading
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that I was always interested in reading books believe it or not okay so first
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books believe it or not okay so first
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books believe it or not okay so first thing is if you want to write you cannot
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thing is if you want to write you cannot
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thing is if you want to write you cannot be a good writer unless you are a great
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be a good writer unless you are a great
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be a good writer unless you are a great reader you need to read a lot to write
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reader you need to read a lot to write
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reader you need to read a lot to write it's not because you can copy paste you
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it's not because you can copy paste you
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it's not because you can copy paste you can steal the ideas you need to know how
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can steal the ideas you need to know how
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can steal the ideas you need to know how people think how a writer think you
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people think how a writer think you
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people think how a writer think you cannot just go on internet and say okay
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cannot just go on internet and say okay
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cannot just go on internet and say okay copy this from here paste from this here
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copy this from here paste from this here
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copy this from here paste from this here and then put it there all these
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and then put it there all these
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and then put it there all these companies run plagurism tools they can
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companies run plagurism tools they can
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companies run plagurism tools they can even sue you if they want they can
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even sue you if they want they can
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even sue you if they want they can Blacklist you and you will never be able
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Blacklist you and you will never be able
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Blacklist you and you will never be able to to author anything with them they
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to to author anything with them they
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to to author anything with them they will Blacklist you in the contract list
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will Blacklist you in the contract list
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will Blacklist you in the contract list uh for any initiatives you take with
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uh for any initiatives you take with
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uh for any initiatives you take with that organization right so I authored
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that organization right so I authored
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that organization right so I authored five books with aess I have done over a
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five books with aess I have done over a
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five books with aess I have done over a dozen technical reviews for different
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dozen technical reviews for different
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dozen technical reviews for different authors uh in packet Pub O'Reilly and
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authors uh in packet Pub O'Reilly and
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authors uh in packet Pub O'Reilly and aess as well uh so it started back in
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aess as well uh so it started back in
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aess as well uh so it started back in 20056 time frame I was in touch with
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20056 time frame I was in touch with
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20056 time frame I was in touch with aess uh but even before writing book I
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aess uh but even before writing book I
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aess uh but even before writing book I was writing articles so you have to have
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was writing articles so you have to have
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was writing articles so you have to have present like mahes has given a huge
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present like mahes has given a huge
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present like mahes has given a huge platform cop corner to to all the
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platform cop corner to to all the
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platform cop corner to to all the aspiring people today even if you don't
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aspiring people today even if you don't
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aspiring people today even if you don't want to write books book but you want to
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want to write books book but you want to
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want to write books book but you want to start something on your own you can
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start something on your own you can
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start something on your own you can write articles there on your blog on C
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write articles there on your blog on C
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write articles there on your blog on C Corner and that brings millions and
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Corner and that brings millions and
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Corner and that brings millions and millions of views to your work you will
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millions of views to your work you will
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millions of views to your work you will not get millions of views what I mean is
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not get millions of views what I mean is
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not get millions of views what I mean is that it will be exposed to millions of
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that it will be exposed to millions of
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that it will be exposed to millions of readers and then they will filter what
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readers and then they will filter what
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readers and then they will filter what they want to see right like for my work
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they want to see right like for my work
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they want to see right like for my work on C Corner today it's approx 8.5
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on C Corner today it's approx 8.5
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on C Corner today it's approx 8.5 million uh I think I'm in top 50 now I'm
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million uh I think I'm in top 50 now I'm
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million uh I think I'm in top 50 now I'm not very active but yes I'm still
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not very active but yes I'm still
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not very active but yes I'm still maintaining that that position right uh
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maintaining that that position right uh
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maintaining that that position right uh so what happens is you you start reading
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so what happens is you you start reading
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so what happens is you you start reading you start writing and then slowly you
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you start writing and then slowly you
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you start writing and then slowly you reach out to people uh okay can you help
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reach out to people uh okay can you help
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reach out to people uh okay can you help me to make some introductions but I will
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me to make some introductions but I will
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me to make some introductions but I will only make introductions once you have
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only make introductions once you have
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only make introductions once you have proven out yourself if somebody is
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proven out yourself if somebody is
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proven out yourself if somebody is reaching out to me without their blog
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reaching out to me without their blog
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reaching out to me without their blog without their original work uh sent to
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without their original work uh sent to
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without their original work uh sent to me in an email I will be very hesitant
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me in an email I will be very hesitant
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me in an email I will be very hesitant uh to make any introduction to any
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uh to make any introduction to any
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uh to make any introduction to any publishing house right so you need to
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publishing house right so you need to
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publishing house right so you need to prove yourself first that's the first
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prove yourself first that's the first
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prove yourself first that's the first thing uh but I think when Mahesh asked
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thing uh but I think when Mahesh asked
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thing uh but I think when Mahesh asked me how did I do it so I got in touch
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me how did I do it so I got in touch
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me how did I do it so I got in touch with apress they asked me some of my
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with apress they asked me some of my
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with apress they asked me some of my sample work uh and then I got connected
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sample work uh and then I got connected
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sample work uh and then I got connected with a person who was writing a book uh
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with a person who was writing a book uh
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with a person who was writing a book uh and then uh I got engaged with that
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and then uh I got engaged with that
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and then uh I got engaged with that person and then I took the book for my
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person and then I took the book for my
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person and then I took the book for my first book
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first book
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first book C5 database beginning with C 2005
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C5 database beginning with C 2005
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C5 database beginning with C 2005 databases uh I did that book I did
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databases uh I did that book I did
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databases uh I did that book I did couple of conversions of the books from
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couple of conversions of the books from
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couple of conversions of the books from C to vb.net where I was not the main
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C to vb.net where I was not the main
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C to vb.net where I was not the main author but I was the author of that book
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author but I was the author of that book
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author but I was the author of that book which I translated complet completely
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which I translated complet completely
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which I translated complet completely from C to bb.net and then I did couple
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from C to bb.net and then I did couple
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from C to bb.net and then I did couple of more books uh in the latest version
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of more books uh in the latest version
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of more books uh in the latest version of c and side by side I also started uh
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of c and side by side I also started uh
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of c and side by side I also started uh asking for work uh for the technical
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asking for work uh for the technical
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asking for work uh for the technical review if you go to any book there is
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review if you go to any book there is
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review if you go to any book there is always a technical reviewer outside
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always a technical reviewer outside
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always a technical reviewer outside author uh so I did that now other advice
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author uh so I did that now other advice
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author uh so I did that now other advice I have for you which I got from my first
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I have for you which I got from my first
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I have for you which I got from my first person in aess who um who gave me the
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person in aess who um who gave me the
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person in aess who um who gave me the first book uh his name was Jim
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first book uh his name was Jim
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first book uh his name was Jim Huddleston uh May soul rest in peace uh
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Huddleston uh May soul rest in peace uh
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Huddleston uh May soul rest in peace uh so that gentleman told me that Vidia if
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so that gentleman told me that Vidia if
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so that gentleman told me that Vidia if you want to write book first of all
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you want to write book first of all
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you want to write book first of all don't think that you are going to be a
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don't think that you are going to be a
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don't think that you are going to be a millionaire U the reason I'm saying that
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millionaire U the reason I'm saying that
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millionaire U the reason I'm saying that is many people many friends of mine at
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is many people many friends of mine at
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is many people many friends of mine at the early stage when somebody was
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the early stage when somebody was
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the early stage when somebody was meeting me they will say oh this guy is
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meeting me they will say oh this guy is
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meeting me they will say oh this guy is a very rich guy he has written five
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a very rich guy he has written five
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a very rich guy he has written five books he must be having hell of the
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books he must be having hell of the
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books he must be having hell of the money but this money thing is what do
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money but this money thing is what do
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money but this money thing is what do you call riches you know I was listening
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you call riches you know I was listening
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you call riches you know I was listening to Bob merley who is a very famous
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to Bob merley who is a very famous
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to Bob merley who is a very famous singer uh
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singer uh
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singer uh and and composer and music writer and
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and and composer and music writer and
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and and composer and music writer and all that stuff somebody was asking him
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all that stuff somebody was asking him
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all that stuff somebody was asking him that oh you are you rich he said how do
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that oh you are you rich he said how do
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that oh you are you rich he said how do you define riches so everybody has
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you define riches so everybody has
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you define riches so everybody has different definitions so if you ask me
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different definitions so if you ask me
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different definitions so if you ask me am I millionaire in Indian currency yes
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am I millionaire in Indian currency yes
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am I millionaire in Indian currency yes maybe I am it's only 10 lakh Rupees
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maybe I am it's only 10 lakh Rupees
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maybe I am it's only 10 lakh Rupees right but I mean just take your mind
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right but I mean just take your mind
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right but I mean just take your mind away from that millionaire concept okay
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away from that millionaire concept okay
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away from that millionaire concept okay think about how many published authors
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think about how many published authors
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think about how many published authors do you know right who has written one 2
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do you know right who has written one 2
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do you know right who has written one 2 3 four five books consistently one after
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3 four five books consistently one after
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3 four five books consistently one after another that means you did something
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another that means you did something
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another that means you did something right then only that organization
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right then only that organization
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right then only that organization continued giving you books so my focus
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continued giving you books so my focus
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continued giving you books so my focus was not on money first of all all right
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was not on money first of all all right
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was not on money first of all all right but I will be honest when time came I
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but I will be honest when time came I
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but I will be honest when time came I negotiated I said okay give me some more
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negotiated I said okay give me some more
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negotiated I said okay give me some more if I can squeeze a little more that's
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if I can squeeze a little more that's
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if I can squeeze a little more that's that's a human nature which is fine
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that's a human nature which is fine
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that's a human nature which is fine because you are being professional they
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because you are being professional they
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because you are being professional they will of course offer you little less
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will of course offer you little less
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will of course offer you little less little more but these days they are very
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little more but these days they are very
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little more but these days they are very strict so I got some money which was the
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strict so I got some money which was the
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strict so I got some money which was the advanc royalty means you write the book
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advanc royalty means you write the book
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advanc royalty means you write the book you give them three chapters they will
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you give them three chapters they will
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you give them three chapters they will give you let's say $1,000 then you write
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give you let's say $1,000 then you write
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give you let's say $1,000 then you write another three four five chapters they
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another three four five chapters they
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another three four five chapters they will give you another $1,000 and then
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will give you another $1,000 and then
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will give you another $1,000 and then book has $12 you got let's say $2,000
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book has $12 you got let's say $2,000
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book has $12 you got let's say $2,000 $3,000 right that is your Advanced
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$3,000 right that is your Advanced
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$3,000 right that is your Advanced royalty that's a reward that you did
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royalty that's a reward that you did
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royalty that's a reward that you did something now the book will be published
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something now the book will be published
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something now the book will be published and you sit quiet you get no money at
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and you sit quiet you get no money at
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and you sit quiet you get no money at all now that book will start selling at
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all now that book will start selling at
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all now that book will start selling at the rate of $10 $12 whatever their price
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the rate of $10 $12 whatever their price
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the rate of $10 $12 whatever their price is and you will get fraction of that
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is and you will get fraction of that
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is and you will get fraction of that that is coming back towards the money
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that is coming back towards the money
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that is coming back towards the money which you got now you will not get
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which you got now you will not get
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which you got now you will not get anything until those $2,000 $11,000 has
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anything until those $2,000 $11,000 has
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anything until those $2,000 $11,000 has been recovered
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been recovered
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been recovered because it was your Advanced royalty so
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because it was your Advanced royalty so
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because it was your Advanced royalty so it was not a straight money given to you
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it was not a straight money given to you
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it was not a straight money given to you so I did not pay attention to money
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so I did not pay attention to money
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so I did not pay attention to money first of all my focus was that okay I
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first of all my focus was that okay I
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first of all my focus was that okay I want to be there I want to write I want
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want to be there I want to write I want
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want to be there I want to write I want to feel good somebody told me long ago
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to feel good somebody told me long ago
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to feel good somebody told me long ago or maybe I read somewhere I forgot that
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or maybe I read somewhere I forgot that
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or maybe I read somewhere I forgot that there are two type of income one is your
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there are two type of income one is your
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there are two type of income one is your monetary income the money the green
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monetary income the money the green
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monetary income the money the green money US Dollars green right in India we
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money US Dollars green right in India we
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money US Dollars green right in India we have colorful money like pink purple
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have colorful money like pink purple
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have colorful money like pink purple purple all that color right it's money
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purple all that color right it's money
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purple all that color right it's money has color right the other income which I
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has color right the other income which I
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has color right the other income which I really believe in is your psychic income
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really believe in is your psychic income
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really believe in is your psychic income how you feel how you how that thing will
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how you feel how you how that thing will
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how you feel how you how that thing will uplift you and bring more opportunities
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uplift you and bring more opportunities
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uplift you and bring more opportunities for you right so after that I got into
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for you right so after that I got into
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for you right so after that I got into technical reviewing with aess said I
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technical reviewing with aess said I
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technical reviewing with aess said I said okay I have kids now uh I am not in
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said okay I have kids now uh I am not in
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said okay I have kids now uh I am not in mood to write more books because it's so
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mood to write more books because it's so
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mood to write more books because it's so much time consuming and I can tell you
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much time consuming and I can tell you
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much time consuming and I can tell you it takes time like hell from you it it
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it takes time like hell from you it it
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it takes time like hell from you it it sucks all the time out of your your life
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sucks all the time out of your your life
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sucks all the time out of your your life uh when you write books and I have
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uh when you write books and I have
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uh when you write books and I have written five so I know how it works I
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written five so I know how it works I
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written five so I know how it works I can give you a rundown if somebody wants
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can give you a rundown if somebody wants
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can give you a rundown if somebody wants to know reach out to to me hit me or
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to know reach out to to me hit me or
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to know reach out to to me hit me or maybe I can write a complete Mahesh has
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maybe I can write a complete Mahesh has
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maybe I can write a complete Mahesh has written articles on cop Corner about it
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written articles on cop Corner about it
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written articles on cop Corner about it if you want to reach out to me I can
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if you want to reach out to me I can
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if you want to reach out to me I can talk in Greater length about it as well
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talk in Greater length about it as well
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talk in Greater length about it as well so I did technical review that started
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so I did technical review that started
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so I did technical review that started paying me a little bit a few dollars
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paying me a little bit a few dollars
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paying me a little bit a few dollars here and there and then now I do even
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here and there and then now I do even
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here and there and then now I do even free nobody pays me but I still do
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free nobody pays me but I still do
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free nobody pays me but I still do technical review because I have mastered
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technical review because I have mastered
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technical review because I have mastered the art I know what to look for and I'm
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the art I know what to look for and I'm
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the art I know what to look for and I'm very quick with that but it still it
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very quick with that but it still it
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very quick with that but it still it takes time so connect with those people
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takes time so connect with those people
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takes time so connect with those people who has done it ask them how to do it
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who has done it ask them how to do it
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who has done it ask them how to do it many times people ask can you get me a
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many times people ask can you get me a
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many times people ask can you get me a that's not the right question to ask you
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that's not the right question to ask you
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that's not the right question to ask you also need to learn as a growth mindset
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also need to learn as a growth mindset
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also need to learn as a growth mindset person how to ask questions right uh so
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person how to ask questions right uh so
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person how to ask questions right uh so you need to say okay here is what I have
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you need to say okay here is what I have
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you need to say okay here is what I have done I want to be a writer could you
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done I want to be a writer could you
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done I want to be a writer could you please review my work and suggest any
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please review my work and suggest any
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please review my work and suggest any any changes anything I need to improvise
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any changes anything I need to improvise
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any changes anything I need to improvise and if possibly could you please
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and if possibly could you please
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and if possibly could you please recommend me to a publishing house and I
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recommend me to a publishing house and I
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recommend me to a publishing house and I have done it for few people I have
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have done it for few people I have
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have done it for few people I have recommended them uh I don't know where
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recommended them uh I don't know where
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recommended them uh I don't know where they went because after that I take out
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they went because after that I take out
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they went because after that I take out myself it's between the company and the
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myself it's between the company and the
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myself it's between the company and the person
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person
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person so Mahesh I will take a pause now I
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so Mahesh I will take a pause now I
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so Mahesh I will take a pause now I don't know if I yeah so guys definitely
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don't know if I yeah so guys definitely
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don't know if I yeah so guys definitely with definitely great great story how to
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with definitely great great story how to
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with definitely great great story how to get published a book again as Vidya said
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get published a book again as Vidya said
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get published a book again as Vidya said you when you're writing a book don't
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you when you're writing a book don't
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you when you're writing a book don't write because you think book authors
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write because you think book authors
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write because you think book authors make a lot of money especially these
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make a lot of money especially these
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make a lot of money especially these days books don't sell a lot printed book
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days books don't sell a lot printed book
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days books don't sell a lot printed book definitely printed books definitely
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definitely printed books definitely
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definitely printed books definitely don't sell a lot when I wrote my books
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don't sell a lot when I wrote my books
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don't sell a lot when I wrote my books yeah we were selling a lot we did you
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yeah we were selling a lot we did you
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yeah we were selling a lot we did you know we make I made a lot of money from
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know we make I made a lot of money from
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know we make I made a lot of money from those books as in the beginning I
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those books as in the beginning I
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those books as in the beginning I wouldn't say lot but at that time it was
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wouldn't say lot but at that time it was
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wouldn't say lot but at that time it was a
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a
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a lot um but again writing is a you have
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lot um but again writing is a you have
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lot um but again writing is a you have to kind of enjoy writing that's the only
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to kind of enjoy writing that's the only
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to kind of enjoy writing that's the only way you can come you have to be natural
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way you can come you have to be natural
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way you can come you have to be natural at it but one thing U not one thing few
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at it but one thing U not one thing few
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at it but one thing U not one thing few things I really learned from writing
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things I really learned from writing
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things I really learned from writing books was which is which was really good
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books was which is which was really good
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books was which is which was really good for my career as well is like being a me
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for my career as well is like being a me
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for my career as well is like being a me from a you know non English medium
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from a you know non English medium
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from a you know non English medium background it helped me learn English
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background it helped me learn English
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background it helped me learn English number one it helped me write English ER
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number one it helped me write English ER
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number one it helped me write English ER it also gave gave me a concept of being
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it also gave gave me a concept of being
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it also gave gave me a concept of being disciplined because writing book is a
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disciplined because writing book is a
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disciplined because writing book is a lot of time during that time it took me
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lot of time during that time it took me
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lot of time during that time it took me my year and a half to finish my first
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my year and a half to finish my first
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my year and a half to finish my first book and there's so many revisions and
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book and there's so many revisions and
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book and there's so many revisions and you there's you know how it is the
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you there's you know how it is the
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you there's you know how it is the editorial process they will find so many
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editorial process they will find so many
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editorial process they will find so many errors and then you have to redo again
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errors and then you have to redo again
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errors and then you have to redo again and when I was writing a book Microsoft
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and when I was writing a book Microsoft
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and when I was writing a book Microsoft wasn't sure what features will be in
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wasn't sure what features will be in
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wasn't sure what features will be in version one and they keep changing every
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version one and they keep changing every
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version one and they keep changing every every two weeks and you have to
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every two weeks and you have to
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every two weeks and you have to recompile the code it wasn't like today
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recompile the code it wasn't like today
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recompile the code it wasn't like today where automatically you get software
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where automatically you get software
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where automatically you get software updates so you know how it is it was a
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updates so you know how it is it was a
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updates so you know how it is it was a hectic process but those uh that
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hectic process but those uh that
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hectic process but those uh that experience taught me how to be
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experience taught me how to be
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experience taught me how to be disciplined how to be focused actually
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disciplined how to be focused actually
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disciplined how to be focused actually also writing actually helps you become
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also writing actually helps you become
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also writing actually helps you become focused as well because when you're
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focused as well because when you're
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focused as well because when you're writing you're in writing mode you don't
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writing you're in writing mode you don't
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writing you're in writing mode you don't hear
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hear
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hear anything uh and I remember I had like a
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anything uh and I remember I had like a
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anything uh and I remember I had like a six year six months old
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six year six months old
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six year six months old son uh he would be crying and I would
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son uh he would be crying and I would
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son uh he would be crying and I would not hear it when I'm writing so anyway
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not hear it when I'm writing so anyway
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not hear it when I'm writing so anyway guys we are today we are with Vidya
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guys we are today we are with Vidya
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guys we are today we are with Vidya agrawal Vidya is a old friend he's very
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agrawal Vidya is a old friend he's very
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agrawal Vidya is a old friend he's very he's published author Microsoft MVP uh
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he's published author Microsoft MVP uh
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he's published author Microsoft MVP uh has been architect for several several
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has been architect for several several
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has been architect for several several years now um bring your questions any
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years now um bring your questions any
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years now um bring your questions any questions you have ask me or Vidia any
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questions you have ask me or Vidia any
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questions you have ask me or Vidia any questions I see few more people joined
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questions I see few more people joined
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questions I see few more people joined Vin well good morning and welcome to the
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Vin well good morning and welcome to the
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Vin well good morning and welcome to the show we are going to take a one one
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show we are going to take a one one
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show we are going to take a one one minute pause and we'll be right back
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minute pause and we'll be right back
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minute pause and we'll be right back when we come back we are going to talk
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when we come back we are going to talk
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when we come back we are going to talk about five more traits of successful
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about five more traits of successful
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about five more traits of successful people and then we will continue talking
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people and then we will continue talking
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people and then we will continue talking uh with Vidya and listen to other
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uh with Vidya and listen to other
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uh with Vidya and listen to other stories he has to share with us again
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stories he has to share with us again
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stories he has to share with us again any questions you have feel free to ask
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know job about salaries you can ask any questions we'll be right
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eastern um we are today here with Vidya
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eastern um we are today here with Vidya brag gral I'm sure some of you already
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brag gral I'm sure some of you already
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brag gral I'm sure some of you already know Vidya from C Corner uh some of you
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know Vidya from C Corner uh some of you
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know Vidya from C Corner uh some of you probably have read his books and he's
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probably have read his books and he's
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probably have read his books and he's published author um and we are also
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published author um and we are also
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published author um and we are also talking about top 10 trads of successful
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talking about top 10 trads of successful
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talking about top 10 trads of successful people we already covered five of our
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people we already covered five of our
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people we already covered five of our traits uh we covered goal oriented um
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traits uh we covered goal oriented um
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traits uh we covered goal oriented um they're highly motivated driven focused
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they're highly motivated driven focused
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they're highly motivated driven focused and never give up the next uh uh which
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and never give up the next uh uh which
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and never give up the next uh uh which is the next trade for Successful People
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is the next trade for Successful People
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is the next trade for Successful People is uh is Risk Takers courage they are
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is uh is Risk Takers courage they are
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is uh is Risk Takers courage they are they are courageous right so if you look
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they are courageous right so if you look
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they are courageous right so if you look any successful people you look at their
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any successful people you look at their
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any successful people you look at their history how they became what they are
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history how they became what they are
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history how they became what they are they take risk right I see a lot of
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they take risk right I see a lot of
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they take risk right I see a lot of people and even Vidya you mentioned that
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people and even Vidya you mentioned that
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people and even Vidya you mentioned that lot of people don't want to take the
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lot of people don't want to take the
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lot of people don't want to take the risk right they just want to live in
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risk right they just want to live in
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risk right they just want to live in their own comfort zone so if you live in
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their own comfort zone so if you live in
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their own comfort zone so if you live in your comfort zone it's chances are that
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your comfort zone it's chances are that
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your comfort zone it's chances are that you're not going to grow much you're not
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you're not going to grow much you're not
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you're not going to grow much you're not going to go to the next step this is how
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going to go to the next step this is how
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going to go to the next step this is how it is um viia on these we are going to
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it is um viia on these we are going to
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it is um viia on these we are going to talk about these if you want to add any
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talk about these if you want to add any
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talk about these if you want to add any more to these uh just feel free to jump
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more to these uh just feel free to jump
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more to these uh just feel free to jump in uh but I agree that you cannot live
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in uh but I agree that you cannot live
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in uh but I agree that you cannot live in a comfort zone and also expect that
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in a comfort zone and also expect that
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in a comfort zone and also expect that success will come to you success is
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success will come to you success is
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success will come to you success is there somewhere it's out there you have
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there somewhere it's out there you have
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there somewhere it's out there you have to just go and get it find it work hard
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to just go and get it find it work hard
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to just go and get it find it work hard for it you know nobody's going to come
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for it you know nobody's going to come
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for it you know nobody's going to come and give it to you so you got to take
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and give it to you so you got to take
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and give it to you so you got to take risk sometimes it's fine to take risk as
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risk sometimes it's fine to take risk as
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risk sometimes it's fine to take risk as Vidya mentioned that he's his whole
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Vidya mentioned that he's his whole
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Vidya mentioned that he's his whole background was net and then he became
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background was net and then he became
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background was net and then he became this architect at T-Mobile he end up
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this architect at T-Mobile he end up
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this architect at T-Mobile he end up learning AWS learning Java learning so
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learning AWS learning Java learning so
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learning AWS learning Java learning so many new technologies so you got to and
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many new technologies so you got to and
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many new technologies so you got to and that's the concept behind growth mindset
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that's the concept behind growth mindset
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that's the concept behind growth mindset is you are willing to learn in once you
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is you are willing to learn in once you
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is you are willing to learn in once you say you know I'm going to learn there
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say you know I'm going to learn there
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say you know I'm going to learn there there's nothing you cannot learn
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there's nothing you cannot learn
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there's nothing you cannot learn especially in software development these
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especially in software development these
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especially in software development these days there's so many resources out there
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days there's so many resources out there
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days there's so many resources out there uh VI you're mute by the
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uh VI you're mute by the
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uh VI you're mute by the way uh yes you want to add something to
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way uh yes you want to add something to
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way uh yes you want to add something to that so uh yes uh many people always ask
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that so uh yes uh many people always ask
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that so uh yes uh many people always ask that uh how do I become a software
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that uh how do I become a software
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that uh how do I become a software architect so you touched on something uh
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architect so you touched on something uh
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architect so you touched on something uh which I always believe in is that if you
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which I always believe in is that if you
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which I always believe in is that if you really want to be a software architect
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really want to be a software architect
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really want to be a software architect you learn to be courageous
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you learn to be courageous
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you learn to be courageous uh like risk taker and courageous risk
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uh like risk taker and courageous risk
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uh like risk taker and courageous risk taker does not mean you break customers
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taker does not mean you break customers
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taker does not mean you break customers architecture by taking you know known
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architecture by taking you know known
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architecture by taking you know known risks like I remember when I was
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risks like I remember when I was
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risks like I remember when I was architecting a solution back in 2007 16
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architecting a solution back in 2007 16
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architecting a solution back in 2007 16 17 um for a customer um um in us uh that
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17 um for a customer um um in us uh that
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17 um for a customer um um in us uh that customer wanted the greatest and latest
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customer wanted the greatest and latest
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customer wanted the greatest and latest all right and and hear me out um there
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all right and and hear me out um there
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all right and and hear me out um there is an anti patri in architecture which
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is an anti patri in architecture which
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is an anti patri in architecture which is called Shiny Toy means never
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is called Shiny Toy means never
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is called Shiny Toy means never architect a solution for a customer and
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architect a solution for a customer and
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architect a solution for a customer and the customer which is into the business
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the customer which is into the business
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the customer which is into the business to serve customers not for a proof of
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to serve customers not for a proof of
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to serve customers not for a proof of concept purposes do not use shiny to in
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concept purposes do not use shiny to in
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concept purposes do not use shiny to in those days net core was evolving in 2017
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those days net core was evolving in 2017
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those days net core was evolving in 2017 it was like early 2017 sort of time
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it was like early 2017 sort of time
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it was like early 2017 sort of time frame and I I was standing there in
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frame and I I was standing there in
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frame and I I was standing there in their leadership I said no I will not
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their leadership I said no I will not
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their leadership I said no I will not suggest you guys to go with net cor the
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suggest you guys to go with net cor the
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suggest you guys to go with net cor the reason is it's still evolving it has not
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reason is it's still evolving it has not
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reason is it's still evolving it has not proven it out so my concept with
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proven it out so my concept with
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proven it out so my concept with architecture for a customer facing a
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architecture for a customer facing a
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architecture for a customer facing a platform portal Tech whatever you are
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platform portal Tech whatever you are
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platform portal Tech whatever you are offering API microservices is always
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offering API microservices is always
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offering API microservices is always stay n minus one so if there is net 5
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stay n minus one so if there is net 5
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stay n minus one so if there is net 5 stay 4.6 or four for that matter right
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stay 4.6 or four for that matter right
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stay 4.6 or four for that matter right the reason is there is enough Community
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the reason is there is enough Community
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the reason is there is enough Community Support so you need to be courageous to
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Support so you need to be courageous to
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Support so you need to be courageous to say those things you need to be
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say those things you need to be
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say those things you need to be courageous to say what is the right
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courageous to say what is the right
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courageous to say what is the right technology you need to be courageous and
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technology you need to be courageous and
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technology you need to be courageous and risk taker to take your chances and
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risk taker to take your chances and
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risk taker to take your chances and suggest
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suggest
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suggest what is in favor of the customer right
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what is in favor of the customer right
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what is in favor of the customer right yeah so these things I just wanted to
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yeah so these things I just wanted to
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yeah so these things I just wanted to bring from my professional experience
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bring from my professional experience
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bring from my professional experience regarding what Mahesh was touching based
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regarding what Mahesh was touching based
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regarding what Mahesh was touching based on is risk-taking and being courageous
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on is risk-taking and being courageous
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on is risk-taking and being courageous yeah and then um welcome Amit welcome to
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yeah and then um welcome Amit welcome to
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yeah and then um welcome Amit welcome to the show we have two Amit here and I
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the show we have two Amit here and I
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the show we have two Amit here and I think we're going to take a question
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think we're going to take a question
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think we're going to take a question here viya is uh actually this is
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here viya is uh actually this is
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here viya is uh actually this is question related to you is uh I think
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question related to you is uh I think
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question related to you is uh I think Amit is asking um what exactly about
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Amit is asking um what exactly about
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Amit is asking um what exactly about what actual work is done by principal
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what actual work is done by principal
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what actual work is done by principal software engineer which you are I think
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software engineer which you are I think
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software engineer which you are I think your principal software engineer
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your principal software engineer
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your principal software engineer manager so first of all I if you take a
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manager so first of all I if you take a
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manager so first of all I if you take a principal out of it okay let me give you
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principal out of it okay let me give you
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principal out of it okay let me give you little bit uh rundown about these titles
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little bit uh rundown about these titles
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little bit uh rundown about these titles so if you take principal out of it the
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so if you take principal out of it the
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so if you take principal out of it the remaining part is two word software
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remaining part is two word software
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remaining part is two word software engineer right so everybody is actually
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engineer right so everybody is actually
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engineer right so everybody is actually a software engineer I am still a
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a software engineer I am still a
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a software engineer I am still a software engineer that's what my breed
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software engineer that's what my breed
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software engineer that's what my breed is right but uh this senior associate
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is right but uh this senior associate
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is right but uh this senior associate many companies have associate right and
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many companies have associate right and
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many companies have associate right and then principal and then some companies
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then principal and then some companies
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then principal and then some companies have different different labels after
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have different different labels after
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have different different labels after that uh all these are different titles
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that uh all these are different titles
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that uh all these are different titles different levels the stages but your
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different levels the stages but your
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different levels the stages but your foundation is a still software Engineers
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foundation is a still software Engineers
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foundation is a still software Engineers right so so the thing is what they do I
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right so so the thing is what they do I
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right so so the thing is what they do I will come to that first of all try to
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will come to that first of all try to
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will come to that first of all try to master your craft okay I always use a
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master your craft okay I always use a
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master your craft okay I always use a word craft all right uh you need to be
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word craft all right uh you need to be
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word craft all right uh you need to be passionate about your craft like I am
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passionate about your craft like I am
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passionate about your craft like I am okay uh I'm passionate about my craft I
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okay uh I'm passionate about my craft I
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okay uh I'm passionate about my craft I I know what I'm doing I know what I want
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I know what I'm doing I know what I want
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I know what I'm doing I know what I want to do and I see I want to see the same
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to do and I see I want to see the same
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to do and I see I want to see the same in others as well which is very hard at
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in others as well which is very hard at
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in others as well which is very hard at times and that is totally understandable
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times and that is totally understandable
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times and that is totally understandable uh no hard feelings but that's how I I
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uh no hard feelings but that's how I I
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uh no hard feelings but that's how I I want to go with other people as well and
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want to go with other people as well and
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want to go with other people as well and I expect that but as I said it's not
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I expect that but as I said it's not
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I expect that but as I said it's not possible every human is different so
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possible every human is different so
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possible every human is different so principle is just a label and principles
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principle is just a label and principles
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principle is just a label and principles reflect more leadership more coaching
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reflect more leadership more coaching
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reflect more leadership more coaching more mentoring working with people
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more mentoring working with people
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more mentoring working with people taking people together and leveraging on
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taking people together and leveraging on
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taking people together and leveraging on strength of others and letting others
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strength of others and letting others
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strength of others and letting others use your
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use your
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use your strengths right so these sort of
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strengths right so these sort of
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strengths right so these sort of leadership traits come with the level
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leadership traits come with the level
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leadership traits come with the level what principle has in many organizations
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what principle has in many organizations
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what principle has in many organizations so my title at Microsoft is a principal
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so my title at Microsoft is a principal
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so my title at Microsoft is a principal software engineering manager uh it's a
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software engineering manager uh it's a
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software engineering manager uh it's a people manager role it's a heavy on
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people manager role it's a heavy on
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people manager role it's a heavy on technology side uh I lead a platform
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technology side uh I lead a platform
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technology side uh I lead a platform architecture team for sjr cxp which is
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architecture team for sjr cxp which is
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architecture team for sjr cxp which is customer experience group uh I hope I
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customer experience group uh I hope I
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customer experience group uh I hope I answered your question but if you are
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answered your question but if you are
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answered your question but if you are really interested in this principal
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really interested in this principal
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really interested in this principal thing if you go to LinkedIn or any job
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thing if you go to LinkedIn or any job
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thing if you go to LinkedIn or any job website you will see these job titles
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website you will see these job titles
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website you will see these job titles and if you put two left and right you
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and if you put two left and right you
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and if you put two left and right you can compare both the job titles uh what
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can compare both the job titles uh what
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can compare both the job titles uh what trades they are looking for but you will
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trades they are looking for but you will
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trades they are looking for but you will find something similar what I just sort
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find something similar what I just sort
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find something similar what I just sort of described yep all right so let's get
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of described yep all right so let's get
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of described yep all right so let's get back to our you know trades for being
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back to our you know trades for being
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back to our you know trades for being successful people if you have any again
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successful people if you have any again
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successful people if you have any again questions again vid is available on
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questions again vid is available on
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questions again vid is available on Twitter as well well as LinkedIn feel
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Twitter as well well as LinkedIn feel
43:58
Twitter as well well as LinkedIn feel free to follow him and connect with him
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free to follow him and connect with him
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free to follow him and connect with him on LinkedIn and Twitter um so number
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on LinkedIn and Twitter um so number
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on LinkedIn and Twitter um so number seventh and I want to finish these four
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seventh and I want to finish these four
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seventh and I want to finish these four more you know these four more traits of
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more you know these four more traits of
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more you know these four more traits of successful people and then we will take
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successful people and then we will take
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successful people and then we will take break after that and we'll come back
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break after that and we'll come back
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break after that and we'll come back with more questions and
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with more questions and
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with more questions and answers uh the number seven is accept
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answers uh the number seven is accept
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answers uh the number seven is accept failure or they take accountability and
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failure or they take accountability and
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failure or they take accountability and which we see often is that you look at
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which we see often is that you look at
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which we see often is that you look at the leaders and most success successful
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the leaders and most success successful
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the leaders and most success successful people they are good leaders right good
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people they are good leaders right good
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people they are good leaders right good leaders take accountability of their
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leaders take accountability of their
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leaders take accountability of their failure they are not like somebody in
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failure they are not like somebody in
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failure they are not like somebody in our you know some president where he for
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our you know some president where he for
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our you know some president where he for you only take you know that take credit
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you only take you know that take credit
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you only take you know that take credit for good things and not for bad things
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for good things and not for bad things
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for good things and not for bad things right so if something is wrong most
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right so if something is wrong most
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right so if something is wrong most successful people they take they accept
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successful people they take they accept
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successful people they take they accept failure and they even take U
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failure and they even take U
44:47
failure and they even take U accountability for their team's failure
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accountability for their team's failure
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accountability for their team's failure as well and that's how that make them
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as well and that's how that make them
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as well and that's how that make them successful successful people also are
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successful successful people also are
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successful successful people also are leaders they make people believe in them
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leaders they make people believe in them
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leaders they make people believe in them right that's how you you want to add
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right that's how you you want to add
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right that's how you you want to add something to
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something to
44:59
something to that no I think you you said it right uh
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that no I think you you said it right uh
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that no I think you you said it right uh it's all about you know uh when I was
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it's all about you know uh when I was
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it's all about you know uh when I was with T-Mobile we had a t-shirt uh
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with T-Mobile we had a t-shirt uh
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with T-Mobile we had a t-shirt uh printed with something like uh we build
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printed with something like uh we build
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printed with something like uh we build it we own it uh so our t-shirt had some
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it we own it uh so our t-shirt had some
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it we own it uh so our t-shirt had some logo and then on the back we had we
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logo and then on the back we had we
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logo and then on the back we had we build it we own it I means so that
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build it we own it I means so that
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build it we own it I means so that failure thing uh that thing will never
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failure thing uh that thing will never
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failure thing uh that thing will never come in any individual if you don't
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come in any individual if you don't
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come in any individual if you don't believe you own this right y so once
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believe you own this right y so once
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believe you own this right y so once that feeling of ownership comes in you
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that feeling of ownership comes in you
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that feeling of ownership comes in you if you just think that you are an
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if you just think that you are an
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if you just think that you are an employee who is taking salary every
45:33
employee who is taking salary every
45:33
employee who is taking salary every month salary is crediting into your
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month salary is crediting into your
45:35
month salary is crediting into your account you are just fine chill out then
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account you are just fine chill out then
45:38
account you are just fine chill out then that's not going to take you anywhere
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that's not going to take you anywhere
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that's not going to take you anywhere yeah all right I'm sure many of us have
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yeah all right I'm sure many of us have
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yeah all right I'm sure many of us have that mindset but since we are talking
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that mindset but since we are talking
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that mindset but since we are talking about mindset uh I think that word will
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about mindset uh I think that word will
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about mindset uh I think that word will keep coming here and there yeah and
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keep coming here and there yeah and
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keep coming here and there yeah and everything starts from here
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everything starts from here
45:51
everything starts from here uh yeah whatever you have here it will
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uh yeah whatever you have here it will
45:54
uh yeah whatever you have here it will come down so so just start to take
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come down so so just start to take
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come down so so just start to take ownership of things and I can share some
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ownership of things and I can share some
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ownership of things and I can share some more stories
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more stories
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more stories later we will do yeah the last half we
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later we will do yeah the last half we
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later we will do yeah the last half we will do is all you know take more
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will do is all you know take more
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will do is all you know take more questions and share more stories and I
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questions and share more stories and I
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questions and share more stories and I have some questions for you too so and
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have some questions for you too so and
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have some questions for you too so and then number Eighth the number Eighth
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then number Eighth the number Eighth
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then number Eighth the number Eighth quality is they're adaptable adaptable
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quality is they're adaptable adaptable
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quality is they're adaptable adaptable is means just because one thing doesn't
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is means just because one thing doesn't
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is means just because one thing doesn't work they pivot and they learn from
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work they pivot and they learn from
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work they pivot and they learn from things and they change they're not
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things and they change they're not
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things and they change they're not really stubborn they're not really you
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really stubborn they're not really you
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really stubborn they're not really you know they learn and they're Flex ible
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know they learn and they're Flex ible
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know they learn and they're Flex ible right um and besides this there's two
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right um and besides this there's two
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right um and besides this there's two other properties one is they're good
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other properties one is they're good
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other properties one is they're good listeners and they are good
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listeners and they are good
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listeners and they are good communicators without being a good
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communicators without being a good
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communicators without being a good communicator it's hard for you to
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communicator it's hard for you to
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communicator it's hard for you to actually tell people what you mean what
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actually tell people what you mean what
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actually tell people what you mean what you're trying to say what you're trying
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you're trying to say what you're trying
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you're trying to say what you're trying to do and they listen to people they
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to do and they listen to people they
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to do and they listen to people they even look at your Steve Jobs he always
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even look at your Steve Jobs he always
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even look at your Steve Jobs he always says that he they hire smart people so
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says that he they hire smart people so
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says that he they hire smart people so they can understand and listen to them
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they can understand and listen to them
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they can understand and listen to them to build better things they're trying to
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to build better things they're trying to
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to build better things they're trying to build
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you want to add to that
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you want to add to that
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you want to add to that viya no you finish the 10th one then I
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viya no you finish the 10th one then I
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viya no you finish the 10th one then I will take some time to cover all right
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will take some time to cover all right
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will take some time to cover all right so great so what we will do is now
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so great so what we will do is now
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so great so what we will do is now that's guy we're going to take a two
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that's guy we're going to take a two
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that's guy we're going to take a two more minutes break and then we'll be
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more minutes break and then we'll be
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more minutes break and then we'll be right back and then what we will do is
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right back and then what we will do is
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right back and then what we will do is we will take your questions uh I have
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we will take your questions uh I have
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we will take your questions uh I have some questions for Vidya so if you have
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some questions for Vidya so if you have
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some questions for Vidya so if you have any questions about career jobs um even
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any questions about career jobs um even
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any questions about career jobs um even you know Community writing anything you
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you know Community writing anything you
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you know Community writing anything you have and Microsoft MVP question we will
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have and Microsoft MVP question we will
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have and Microsoft MVP question we will take some questions at I see you uh
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take some questions at I see you uh
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take some questions at I see you uh welcome back to the show uh Sean I see
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welcome back to the show uh Sean I see
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welcome back to the show uh Sean I see you welcome to the show we will take
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you welcome to the show we will take
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May welcome back to the growth mind set
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May welcome back to the growth mind set show today I'm here with Vidya agrawal
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show today I'm here with Vidya agrawal
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show today I'm here with Vidya agrawal um my name is Mahesh Chand I'm here from
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um my name is Mahesh Chand I'm here from
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um my name is Mahesh Chand I'm here from Philadelphia Vidya is here he's he's in
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Philadelphia Vidya is here he's he's in
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Philadelphia Vidya is here he's he's in Seattle close to Seattle Washington I
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Seattle close to Seattle Washington I
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Seattle close to Seattle Washington I works for micros soft today we are
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works for micros soft today we are
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works for micros soft today we are talking about growth mindset and um you
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talking about growth mindset and um you
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talking about growth mindset and um you know what are the different traits of
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know what are the different traits of
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know what are the different traits of successful people so
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successful people so
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successful people so Vidya um let's take a couple of
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Vidya um let's take a couple of
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Vidya um let's take a couple of questions and I think they are questions
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questions and I think they are questions
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questions and I think they are questions uh and then we'll continue asking you
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uh and then we'll continue asking you
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uh and then we'll continue asking you know convers more conversation sure uh I
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know convers more conversation sure uh I
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know convers more conversation sure uh I see this question from on the screen is
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see this question from on the screen is
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see this question from on the screen is that okay take that one it's from Sha
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that okay take that one it's from Sha
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that okay take that one it's from Sha does a technical architect need to be a
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does a technical architect need to be a
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does a technical architect need to be a technology agnostic so
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uh this is a very good question first of
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uh this is a very good question first of
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uh this is a very good question first of all okay and I would say once you if you
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all okay and I would say once you if you
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all okay and I would say once you if you are not a Dev and you want to come out
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are not a Dev and you want to come out
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are not a Dev and you want to come out of it you need to learn to be technology
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of it you need to learn to be technology
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of it you need to learn to be technology agnostic uh the reason is you cannot
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agnostic uh the reason is you cannot
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agnostic uh the reason is you cannot always talk in terms of one technology
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always talk in terms of one technology
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always talk in terms of one technology um at T-Mobile I will give you an
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um at T-Mobile I will give you an
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um at T-Mobile I will give you an example we were having hybrid
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example we were having hybrid
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example we were having hybrid architecture uh our UI Wass an angular
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architecture uh our UI Wass an angular
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architecture uh our UI Wass an angular of we were using Google Cloud which was
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of we were using Google Cloud which was
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of we were using Google Cloud which was EP Gateway for our proxy and then
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EP Gateway for our proxy and then
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EP Gateway for our proxy and then everything was in AWS then we even had
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everything was in AWS then we even had
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everything was in AWS then we even had some microservices running on on Prem
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some microservices running on on Prem
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some microservices running on on Prem data center uh that was in PCS pivotal
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data center uh that was in PCS pivotal
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data center uh that was in PCS pivotal Cloud founder I already gave you three
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Cloud founder I already gave you three
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Cloud founder I already gave you three Cloud environments Nam by now right and
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Cloud environments Nam by now right and
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Cloud environments Nam by now right and then we had some in as your as well in
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then we had some in as your as well in
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then we had some in as your as well in some other teams not in my team
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some other teams not in my team
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some other teams not in my team particularly so if you see if somebody
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particularly so if you see if somebody
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particularly so if you see if somebody says oh I only Master one then how it is
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says oh I only Master one then how it is
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says oh I only Master one then how it is going to happen but at the same time
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going to happen but at the same time
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going to happen but at the same time this master may not be the right word
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this master may not be the right word
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this master may not be the right word don't try to master it the reason is if
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don't try to master it the reason is if
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don't try to master it the reason is if many of you have asked that question in
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many of you have asked that question in
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many of you have asked that question in many forums uh is that how to become a
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many forums uh is that how to become a
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many forums uh is that how to become a software architect or technical
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software architect or technical
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software architect or technical architect or whatever is the title
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architect or whatever is the title
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architect or whatever is the title solution architect like my title was
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solution architect like my title was
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solution architect like my title was principal architect just keep it
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principal architect just keep it
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principal architect just keep it software architect for that matter to to
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software architect for that matter to to
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software architect for that matter to to keep it simple soft I and I gave a
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keep it simple soft I and I gave a
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keep it simple soft I and I gave a complete talk on it you can search it on
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complete talk on it you can search it on
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complete talk on it you can search it on my LinkedIn uh how to become a software
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my LinkedIn uh how to become a software
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my LinkedIn uh how to become a software architect so Architects are all is
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architect so Architects are all is
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architect so Architects are all is t-shaped if you see how T is drawn T has
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t-shaped if you see how T is drawn T has
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t-shaped if you see how T is drawn T has that long bar at the top and then one
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that long bar at the top and then one
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that long bar at the top and then one line in the center that means is
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line in the center that means is
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line in the center that means is Architects have the equal breadth and
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Architects have the equal breadth and
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Architects have the equal breadth and then they have some depth so my depth is
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then they have some depth so my depth is
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then they have some depth so my depth is in server side technology right I I am
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in server side technology right I I am
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in server side technology right I I am aspirant of clean code best practices
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aspirant of clean code best practices
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aspirant of clean code best practices guidelines software architecture
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guidelines software architecture
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guidelines software architecture microservices all these sort of things
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microservices all these sort of things
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microservices all these sort of things you can be having depth in let's say UI
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you can be having depth in let's say UI
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you can be having depth in let's say UI Technologies you know a lot about react
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Technologies you know a lot about react
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Technologies you know a lot about react angular
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angular
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angular JavaScript and whatnot right somebody
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JavaScript and whatnot right somebody
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JavaScript and whatnot right somebody can be having depth in devop somebody
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can be having depth in devop somebody
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can be having depth in devop somebody can be having depth in networking and
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can be having depth in networking and
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can be having depth in networking and then your bre means you can talk cross
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then your bre means you can talk cross
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then your bre means you can talk cross cut across the software layers and
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cut across the software layers and
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cut across the software layers and different Technologies so yes you have
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different Technologies so yes you have
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different Technologies so yes you have to be technology agnostic for example
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to be technology agnostic for example
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to be technology agnostic for example you are talking to a customer that
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you are talking to a customer that
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you are talking to a customer that customer's background is in AWS you
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customer's background is in AWS you
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customer's background is in AWS you cannot keep telling them uh VM VM
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cannot keep telling them uh VM VM
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cannot keep telling them uh VM VM virtual machine virtual machine they
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virtual machine virtual machine they
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virtual machine virtual machine they will understand it but if you say ec2
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will understand it but if you say ec2
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will understand it but if you say ec2 that is plastic compute Cloud that's
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that is plastic compute Cloud that's
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that is plastic compute Cloud that's what Amazon AWS calls a virtual machine
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what Amazon AWS calls a virtual machine
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what Amazon AWS calls a virtual machine it will resonate better with them right
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it will resonate better with them right
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it will resonate better with them right if you want to call let's say you say
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if you want to call let's say you say
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if you want to call let's say you say okay we will don't worry about your
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okay we will don't worry about your
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okay we will don't worry about your multi- reason we will put a traffic
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multi- reason we will put a traffic
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multi- reason we will put a traffic manager in the middle traffic manager is
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manager in the middle traffic manager is
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manager in the middle traffic manager is part of a load balancer which routes
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part of a load balancer which routes
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part of a load balancer which routes traffic coming from a customer to the
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traffic coming from a customer to the
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traffic coming from a customer to the nearest reason of that cloud provider
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nearest reason of that cloud provider
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nearest reason of that cloud provider Amazon doesn't have that term Amazon
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Amazon doesn't have that term Amazon
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Amazon doesn't have that term Amazon calls it Route 53 so if you know these
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calls it Route 53 so if you know these
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calls it Route 53 so if you know these basic things and you are technology
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basic things and you are technology
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basic things and you are technology agnostic and you know a little bit about
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agnostic and you know a little bit about
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agnostic and you know a little bit about the other competitor provider or the
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the other competitor provider or the
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the other competitor provider or the technology used then you are always
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technology used then you are always
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technology used then you are always having an edge on Advantage when you are
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having an edge on Advantage when you are
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having an edge on Advantage when you are talking to a client or to a d or to
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talking to a client or to a d or to
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talking to a client or to a d or to anybody for that matter I hope I
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anybody for that matter I hope I
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anybody for that matter I hope I answered your question all right so
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answered your question all right so
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answered your question all right so let's take one more question from Sean
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let's take one more question from Sean
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let's take one more question from Sean Sean is asking how can we take our carer
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Sean is asking how can we take our carer
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Sean is asking how can we take our carer to the next level I believe sea is a
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to the next level I believe sea is a
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to the next level I believe sea is a developer all right Sean so that's a
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developer all right Sean so that's a
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developer all right Sean so that's a great question as well uh however it I
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great question as well uh however it I
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great question as well uh however it I don't necessarily understand what do you
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don't necessarily understand what do you
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don't necessarily understand what do you mean by Next Level Next Level could be
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mean by Next Level Next Level could be
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mean by Next Level Next Level could be you want to do more in your career or
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you want to do more in your career or
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you want to do more in your career or you want to go to the next uh promotion
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you want to go to the next uh promotion
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you want to go to the next uh promotion level uh the only thing I have is I
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level uh the only thing I have is I
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level uh the only thing I have is I think growth mindset covers it all uh
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think growth mindset covers it all uh
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think growth mindset covers it all uh ownership is one uh first of all and
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ownership is one uh first of all and
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ownership is one uh first of all and then um once you start let's take an
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then um once you start let's take an
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then um once you start let's take an example let's say you want to become
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example let's say you want to become
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example let's say you want to become from you know you are a developer and
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from you know you are a developer and
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from you know you are a developer and you want to become a tech lead
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you want to become a tech lead
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you want to become a tech lead yeah that's that's perfect and Sean
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yeah that's that's perfect and Sean
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yeah that's that's perfect and Sean please put your clarification in the
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please put your clarification in the
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please put your clarification in the chat window I apologize if I'm not
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chat window I apologize if I'm not
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chat window I apologize if I'm not getting your question clearly because I
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getting your question clearly because I
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getting your question clearly because I see it's a little bit abstract but
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see it's a little bit abstract but
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see it's a little bit abstract but please put more information in the chat
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please put more information in the chat
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please put more information in the chat window and I will I'm watching your the
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window and I will I'm watching your the
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window and I will I'm watching your the comment section so it has happened with
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comment section so it has happened with
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comment section so it has happened with many people okay I have worked in many
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many people okay I have worked in many
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many people okay I have worked in many organizations and many people will go in
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organizations and many people will go in
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organizations and many people will go in a review and they say Okay um they did
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a review and they say Okay um they did
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a review and they say Okay um they did not promote me uh they didn't make me an
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not promote me uh they didn't make me an
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not promote me uh they didn't make me an architect I still a tech lead or I am
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architect I still a tech lead or I am
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architect I still a tech lead or I am still a Dev they didn't make me team
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still a Dev they didn't make me team
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still a Dev they didn't make me team lead y I will tell you just one thing
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lead y I will tell you just one thing
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lead y I will tell you just one thing okay and remember it it's a very
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okay and remember it it's a very
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okay and remember it it's a very powerful thing I'm going to say always
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powerful thing I'm going to say always
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powerful thing I'm going to say always remember what got you here won't get you
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remember what got you here won't get you
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remember what got you here won't get you there I will repeat it one more time
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there I will repeat it one more time
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there I will repeat it one more time what got you here won't get you
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what got you here won't get you
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what got you here won't get you there if you became a developer in a
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there if you became a developer in a
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there if you became a developer in a company you are never going to be a
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company you are never going to be a
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company you are never going to be a teack lead if you continue doing the
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teack lead if you continue doing the
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teack lead if you continue doing the same thing that's what this means what
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same thing that's what this means what
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same thing that's what this means what got you here won't get you there me
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got you here won't get you there me
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got you here won't get you there me means you need to do something extra now
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means you need to do something extra now
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means you need to do something extra now that extra many time people think that
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that extra many time people think that
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that extra many time people think that it will just happen out of the blue my
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it will just happen out of the blue my
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it will just happen out of the blue my philosophy of work has always been when
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philosophy of work has always been when
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philosophy of work has always been when I join an organization I always try to
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I join an organization I always try to
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I join an organization I always try to look up to the next level I'm not in
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look up to the next level I'm not in
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look up to the next level I'm not in rush to become that person uh but I want
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rush to become that person uh but I want
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rush to become that person uh but I want to know what my leaders are doing how do
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to know what my leaders are doing how do
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to know what my leaders are doing how do they think I sat 101 with them uh at
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they think I sat 101 with them uh at
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they think I sat 101 with them uh at T-Mobile also I had couple of mentors I
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T-Mobile also I had couple of mentors I
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T-Mobile also I had couple of mentors I always look for mentors uh I talk to
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always look for mentors uh I talk to
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always look for mentors uh I talk to them I understand how they think what is
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them I understand how they think what is
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them I understand how they think what is their trait what are the other big
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their trait what are the other big
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their trait what are the other big things they are doing right so always if
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things they are doing right so always if
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things they are doing right so always if you want to be a tech lead already learn
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you want to be a tech lead already learn
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you want to be a tech lead already learn what tech leads are doing I'm not saying
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what tech leads are doing I'm not saying
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what tech leads are doing I'm not saying many times you will find in many
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many times you will find in many
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many times you will find in many companies that they are not doing
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companies that they are not doing
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companies that they are not doing anything different then find what that
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anything different then find what that
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anything different then find what that Gap is how do they think how do they
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Gap is how do they think how do they
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Gap is how do they think how do they talk what sort of responsibilities they
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talk what sort of responsibilities they
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talk what sort of responsibilities they take and then slowly put your foot into
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take and then slowly put your foot into
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take and then slowly put your foot into those areas as well means you need to
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those areas as well means you need to
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those areas as well means you need to prove yourself right that you can do it
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prove yourself right that you can do it
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prove yourself right that you can do it and once you are already doing it when
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and once you are already doing it when
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and once you are already doing it when you go in your review or your leaders
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you go in your review or your leaders
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you go in your review or your leaders see that oh you are already performing
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see that oh you are already performing
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see that oh you are already performing at that level means you are good to go
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at that level means you are good to go
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at that level means you are good to go for that many times we think you give me
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for that many times we think you give me
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for that many times we think you give me that job designation first then I will
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that job designation first then I will
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that job designation first then I will start behaving or you know performing at
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start behaving or you know performing at
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start behaving or you know performing at that level but in many companies it
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that level but in many companies it
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that level but in many companies it doesn't work that way you already have
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doesn't work that way you already have
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doesn't work that way you already have to start performing then that they will
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to start performing then that they will
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to start performing then that they will give you that job designation or
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give you that job designation or
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give you that job designation or level was that yeah I think that's good
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level was that yeah I think that's good
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level was that yeah I think that's good and I can add some to that is
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and I can add some to that is
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and I can add some to that is it's basically you know as you said with
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it's basically you know as you said with
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it's basically you know as you said with you watch what everybody's doing and
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you watch what everybody's doing and
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you watch what everybody's doing and learn from them and then also be
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learn from them and then also be
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learn from them and then also be available to do more right uh companies
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available to do more right uh companies
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available to do more right uh companies wants to see or people wants to see that
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wants to see or people wants to see that
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wants to see or people wants to see that you are you know not only responsible
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you are you know not only responsible
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you are you know not only responsible but you can take on more than what
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but you can take on more than what
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but you can take on more than what you're already doing right um I always
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you're already doing right um I always
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you're already doing right um I always tell guys don't find a company that give
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tell guys don't find a company that give
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tell guys don't find a company that give you just enough job find a company or a
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you just enough job find a company or a
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you just enough job find a company or a B boss that gives you more job than you
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B boss that gives you more job than you
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B boss that gives you more job than you can handle it because that's what make
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can handle it because that's what make
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can handle it because that's what make you your mind like your mindset again
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you your mind like your mindset again
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you your mind like your mindset again back to the growth mindset if you
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back to the growth mindset if you
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back to the growth mindset if you already start working hard when you are
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already start working hard when you are
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already start working hard when you are young then eventually it's going to
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young then eventually it's going to
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young then eventually it's going to become your habit and you are the you
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become your habit and you are the you
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become your habit and you are the you are the main person who is going to
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are the main person who is going to
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are the main person who is going to actually benefit from that no matter
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actually benefit from that no matter
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actually benefit from that no matter where you go but if you are just doing
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where you go but if you are just doing
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where you go but if you are just doing as much as you are told or you are just
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as much as you are told or you are just
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as much as you are told or you are just doing that you know you're supposed to
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doing that you know you're supposed to
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doing that you know you're supposed to do you're not going to nothing is going
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do you're not going to nothing is going
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do you're not going to nothing is going to change so besides the what are you
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to change so besides the what are you
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to change so besides the what are you doing also go and learn new things right
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doing also go and learn new things right
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doing also go and learn new things right so in your company and discussions there
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so in your company and discussions there
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so in your company and discussions there may be discussions about new
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may be discussions about new
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may be discussions about new technologies or new features or new
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technologies or new features or new
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technologies or new features or new products and you may be the one who only
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products and you may be the one who only
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products and you may be the one who only knows that for example in a meeting if
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knows that for example in a meeting if
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knows that for example in a meeting if your boss ask you about blockchain and
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your boss ask you about blockchain and
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your boss ask you about blockchain and nobody knows and you are the only one
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nobody knows and you are the only one
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nobody knows and you are the only one who knows about even the little bit
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who knows about even the little bit
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who knows about even the little bit guess what he's going to next talk to
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guess what he's going to next talk to
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guess what he's going to next talk to you so you have to kind of go out of
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you so you have to kind of go out of
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you so you have to kind of go out of your way learn new things and be in the
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your way learn new things and be in the
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your way learn new things and be in the discussions and participate uh all right
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discussions and participate uh all right
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discussions and participate uh all right that's great so let's take one more
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that's great so let's take one more
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that's great so let's take one more question from Mega we only have one more
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question from Mega we only have one more
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question from Mega we only have one more minute
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minute
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minute left uh so Mah I will take this question
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left uh so Mah I will take this question
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left uh so Mah I will take this question and then there is a question which
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and then there is a question which
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and then there is a question which Deepak has put long ago okay beginning
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Deepak has put long ago okay beginning
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Deepak has put long ago okay beginning of the show I would like to take that as
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of the show I would like to take that as
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of the show I would like to take that as well before we end the show so Mega it's
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well before we end the show so Mega it's
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well before we end the show so Mega it's sir how can I improve my coding skills
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sir how can I improve my coding skills
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sir how can I improve my coding skills so coding is all about practice first of
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so coding is all about practice first of
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so coding is all about practice first of all I would say do not try
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all I would say do not try
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all I would say do not try to to memorize the the language try to
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to to memorize the the language try to
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to to memorize the the language try to focus on grammar right like if you want
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focus on grammar right like if you want
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focus on grammar right like if you want to learn English for example what do you
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to learn English for example what do you
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to learn English for example what do you do uh if we just only learn the phrases
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do uh if we just only learn the phrases
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do uh if we just only learn the phrases then you know where we are but if you
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then you know where we are but if you
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then you know where we are but if you learn the grammar how things fit in then
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learn the grammar how things fit in then
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learn the grammar how things fit in then it's a different ball game alog together
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it's a different ball game alog together
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it's a different ball game alog together right so try to learn the grammar means
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right so try to learn the grammar means
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right so try to learn the grammar means the syntax what new features are coming
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the syntax what new features are coming
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the syntax what new features are coming uh you do not have to necessarily
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uh you do not have to necessarily
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uh you do not have to necessarily install every new version of the
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install every new version of the
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install every new version of the technology at times it's very hard these
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technology at times it's very hard these
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technology at times it's very hard these days there are tools available if you
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days there are tools available if you
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days there are tools available if you are uh working on there is a net Fiddler
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are uh working on there is a net Fiddler
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are uh working on there is a net Fiddler website available it's the online
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website available it's the online
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website available it's the online compiler which shows MVC model view
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compiler which shows MVC model view
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compiler which shows MVC model view controller you can put code there it
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controller you can put code there it
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controller you can put code there it shows HTML and all that stuff and then
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shows HTML and all that stuff and then
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shows HTML and all that stuff and then you can run it then and there so try to
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you can run it then and there so try to
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you can run it then and there so try to focus on that stay in the core of object
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focus on that stay in the core of object
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focus on that stay in the core of object oriented programming how I was able to
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oriented programming how I was able to
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oriented programming how I was able to do it at T-Mobile without having any
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do it at T-Mobile without having any
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do it at T-Mobile without having any working background or like hands-on
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working background or like hands-on
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working background or like hands-on experience like I did in c.net in Java
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experience like I did in c.net in Java
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experience like I did in c.net in Java because I focused on the grammar of the
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because I focused on the grammar of the
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because I focused on the grammar of the language when I landed there I knew if
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language when I landed there I knew if
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language when I landed there I knew if this design is properly following solid
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this design is properly following solid
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this design is properly following solid design principles or not right solid is
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design principles or not right solid is
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design principles or not right solid is stays the same thing it's
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stays the same thing it's
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stays the same thing it's object-oriented design principle and
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object-oriented design principle and
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object-oriented design principle and then I focused on those things and found
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then I focused on those things and found
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then I focused on those things and found gaps so I hope I answered your question
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gaps so I hope I answered your question
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gaps so I hope I answered your question at the higher level mahes do you mind if
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at the higher level mahes do you mind if
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at the higher level mahes do you mind if I take deepak's question real quick no
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I take deepak's question real quick no
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I take deepak's question real quick no no no go ahead go ahead so Deepak has
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no no go ahead go ahead so Deepak has
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no no go ahead go ahead so Deepak has asked that he is watching the session
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asked that he is watching the session
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asked that he is watching the session along with his friends there you go um
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along with his friends there you go um
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along with his friends there you go um how we detect that we are at the right
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how we detect that we are at the right
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how we detect that we are at the right place or wrong so I will leave you one a
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place or wrong so I will leave you one a
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place or wrong so I will leave you one a book title here uh it's a very small
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book title here uh it's a very small
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book title here uh it's a very small book hardly 39 Pages it has immense
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book hardly 39 Pages it has immense
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book hardly 39 Pages it has immense value the book title is who Moved My
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value the book title is who Moved My
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value the book title is who Moved My Cheese uh read that book if not already
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Cheese uh read that book if not already
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Cheese uh read that book if not already uh what is what is the book called I
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uh what is what is the book called I
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uh what is what is the book called I will repeat it again who Moved My Cheese
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will repeat it again who Moved My Cheese
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will repeat it again who Moved My Cheese it's a very famous cheese it's a very
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it's a very famous cheese it's a very
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it's a very famous cheese it's a very famous book so okay what he's asking is
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famous book so okay what he's asking is
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famous book so okay what he's asking is how do you know if you are at the right
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how do you know if you are at the right
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how do you know if you are at the right place or wrong so what defines what is
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place or wrong so what defines what is
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place or wrong so what defines what is right place right so for me right place
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right place right so for me right place
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right place right so for me right place is is where there is an opportunity to
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is is where there is an opportunity to
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is is where there is an opportunity to grow for me right place is where when I
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grow for me right place is where when I
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grow for me right place is where when I wake up and get out of my bed I look
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wake up and get out of my bed I look
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wake up and get out of my bed I look forward to go to work right plac is
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forward to go to work right plac is
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forward to go to work right plac is where I enjoy working with those people
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where I enjoy working with those people
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where I enjoy working with those people I I like my boss who gives me enough
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I I like my boss who gives me enough
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I I like my boss who gives me enough opportunity to grow who gives me enough
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opportunity to grow who gives me enough
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opportunity to grow who gives me enough playground to play and and do things
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playground to play and and do things
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playground to play and and do things that does not mean that I'm in net as
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that does not mean that I'm in net as
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that does not mean that I'm in net as your and he gives me blockchain
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your and he gives me blockchain
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your and he gives me blockchain blockchain project maybe I'm not
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blockchain project maybe I'm not
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blockchain project maybe I'm not interested in there right but different
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interested in there right but different
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interested in there right but different ideas right don't take it in the wrong
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ideas right don't take it in the wrong
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ideas right don't take it in the wrong direction so read that book uh I think
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direction so read that book uh I think
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direction so read that book uh I think that will answer your question to
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that will answer your question to
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that will answer your question to Greater length but for the sake of time
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Greater length but for the sake of time
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Greater length but for the sake of time I will leave it
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I will leave it
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I will leave it there well that's well I think um we are
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there well that's well I think um we are
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there well that's well I think um we are kind of out of time now but this was a
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kind of out of time now but this was a
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kind of out of time now but this was a great session and um again guys thank
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great session and um again guys thank
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great session and um again guys thank you everybody for joining us I know I
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you everybody for joining us I know I
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you everybody for joining us I know I saw a lot of guys coming back every week
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saw a lot of guys coming back every week
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saw a lot of guys coming back every week uh it is nice to see you again and uh
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uh it is nice to see you again and uh
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uh it is nice to see you again and uh Vidya again I know it's too early there
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Vidya again I know it's too early there
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Vidya again I know it's too early there it's like almost you start at 7 a.m. I
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it's like almost you start at 7 a.m. I
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it's like almost you start at 7 a.m. I can't be up at 7
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can't be up at 7
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can't be up at 7 a.m. so but you are like early riser you
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a.m. so but you are like early riser you
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a.m. so but you are like early riser you know so thank you so much again coming
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know so thank you so much again coming
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know so thank you so much again coming here and sharing your experience with
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here and sharing your experience with
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here and sharing your experience with all us all of us in these guys and I
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all us all of us in these guys and I
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all us all of us in these guys and I hope uh uh everybody enjoyed it any last
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hope uh uh everybody enjoyed it any last
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hope uh uh everybody enjoyed it any last word you want to say to everybody no I
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word you want to say to everybody no I
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word you want to say to everybody no I think first of all I want to thank sisha
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think first of all I want to thank sisha
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think first of all I want to thank sisha corner for hosting these events uh these
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corner for hosting these events uh these
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corner for hosting these events uh these are very good I hope people who will
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are very good I hope people who will
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are very good I hope people who will listen later will be benefited uh in cop
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listen later will be benefited uh in cop
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listen later will be benefited uh in cop corner there is a career section where
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corner there is a career section where
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corner there is a career section where you can go and ask questions you can hit
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you can go and ask questions you can hit
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you can go and ask questions you can hit mahes or me on LinkedIn or whatever and
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mahes or me on LinkedIn or whatever and
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mahes or me on LinkedIn or whatever and we can either do some other sessions
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we can either do some other sessions
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we can either do some other sessions mahes keep inviting other leaders uh if
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mahes keep inviting other leaders uh if
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mahes keep inviting other leaders uh if you want to grow I would say listening
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you want to grow I would say listening
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you want to grow I would say listening to others is very important uh listen to
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to others is very important uh listen to
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to others is very important uh listen to other leaders uh I'm still learning I'm
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other leaders uh I'm still learning I'm
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other leaders uh I'm still learning I'm a constant learner uh and just do good
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a constant learner uh and just do good
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a constant learner uh and just do good wherever you are uh and always remember
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wherever you are uh and always remember
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wherever you are uh and always remember that uh the harder you work luckier you
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that uh the harder you work luckier you
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that uh the harder you work luckier you get I also recommended couple of books
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get I also recommended couple of books
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get I also recommended couple of books so go through those uh send me note or
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so go through those uh send me note or
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so go through those uh send me note or messages if you need anything or mahes
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messages if you need anything or mahes
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messages if you need anything or mahes and we will see how we can answer it
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and we will see how we can answer it
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and we will see how we can answer it specific questions and thank you so much
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specific questions and thank you so much
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specific questions and thank you so much mahes for having me and I hope all right
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mahes for having me and I hope all right
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mahes for having me and I hope all right and thank you all guys no worries no
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and thank you all guys no worries no
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and thank you all guys no worries no worries and thank you everybody behind
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worries and thank you everybody behind
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worries and thank you everybody behind the scene guys and guys on social media
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the scene guys and guys on social media
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the scene guys and guys on social media everybody thank you so much and we will
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everybody thank you so much and we will
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everybody thank you so much and we will see you next week
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see you next week
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see you next week [Music]